AMD A10-7700K and AMD A6-7400K Conclusion

I started this mini-review stating that the question of the number of processors that both Intel and AMD produce all seem to differ by 100 MHz and $7, and that I had received questions as to why this is the case. Ultimately a lot of recommendations for computer components start to revolve around ‘Well for $10 more, you could get this’, and at some point you are considering something that costs $50 more. There has to be a point where you stop, especially if an IT department or system builder wants to go through and develop 200+ machines in a month.

Intel and AMD currently have different approaches to this. Intel likes to launch a big part of its stack all at once. Sometimes it will launch individual units outside this, or it will start a new line-up with one or two units then introduce the bulk later. With Haswell for example, on the socketed CPU space, we have 50 different CPUs varying in price, power, frequency, core count, threading and integrated graphics. Imagine the poor reviewer that has to test them all (insert here that I’d love to test them to get all the data, if I had time and could source them)!

AMD’s approach to Kaveri is to dribble rather than gush. Rather than overload the user base (both end-users and commercial) with a large haystack of parts, they launched two or three SKUs on day one, then one or two every 6-12 weeks since. This has some benefits, namely the improvement of the production process over time, the repeated opportunities to market new products and the opportunity to re-educate potential clients through the media. The downside of this strategy is one similar to starting with Swiss cheese and then filling in the holes – if a client wants a SKU with particular characteristics but the company does not have it, then they will go look for something else and take their money with them. It’s a method that acts as a double edged sword.

As AnandTech’s CPU editor, I get to play with a lot more SKUs than most. This means both the big shiny halo products, such as the 8-core goliaths, but also some of the higher volume dual core stuff which is more in line with a budget PC or mass PC build. With AMD’s strategy, as they have fewer processors overall, our coverage can be a little more complete than the others. AMD sampled us both the A10-7700K and the A6-7400K for this purpose, and we hope to work closely with them for future launches and get the best comparison list of their product stack.

Back to the SKUs tested for this mini-review, we can tell that the A10-7700K keeps up with the other A10 parts in our CPU testing, but as it has two fewer compute units in the integrated graphics it can lag behind a little and is more in line with the A8 processors in that regard, essentially making it more of a hybrid part. The A6-7400K fits into that budget CPU line at $64, and the results show this in both our CPU and GPU testing. The single module performs well enough in single threaded environments, but doesn’t have enough legs for the big tasks and can be swamped easily. Despite having two threads, the Bulldozer based design still has single-threaded like behavior in some tests. That being said, the graphics tests are a mixed bag. For titles that can use more threads, I can’t help but feel that it is a little held back, even at 256 SPs. For other titles, it performs on par with other processors almost double its price. Dual Graphics mode unfortunately was not possible with the A6, and it was also noticeable that some games (Shadows of Mordor in particular) took longer to load with only one module.

To say AMD’s APUs are like marmite (you either love them or hate them) is to gloss over a more complex issue. AMD’s design has its plus points and its negative points, a fact that AMD marketing knows when I speak to them. Nevertheless, they have to focus on the plus points, which include gaming at equivalent price points, DX12 support, OpenCL performance and moving forward with HSA. Using the right tool for the right job should now be considered a cliché, but it rings true when it comes to technology and more so than ever when innovative methods are continually being fashioned. Based on AMD’s Financial Analyst Day and their recent exposure into HBM (I highly suggest reading Ryan’s awesome writeup on it), I can safely say that I want to see an APU with HBM in the future. Despite the inevitability that AMD already know that people want one, I told them anyway. We will have to wait and see.

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  • Edens_Remorse - Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - link

    Indeed - with dx12 that 860k/870k is going to look a lot more competitive against i5s too. One of my favorite CPUs out right now.
  • nissangtr786 - Sunday, May 31, 2015 - link

    Why i5 haswell cpus generally are 80-90% faster then 860k in integer performance and 4x FPU performance. These benchmarks with r9 285 shows the i5 4690 getting double fps then an a10-7850k with r9 285 in Grid Autosport. 860k is in between a pentium and an i3. i3 haswell destroy 860k at gaming due to 4th ALU meaning its gonna beat cpus like fx9590 in most multithreaded games.
  • akamateau - Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - link

    Hey Ian Cutress, where are the DX12 3dMArk API Overhead Tests? Where are the Starw Swarm Tests?

    Are you afraid that AMD will crush Intel? Are you an Intel scamwriter?

    Where are the DX12 API Overhead Benchmarks? Where are the Starswarm Benchmarks?
  • akamateau - Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - link

    @ Ian "The Hack" Cutress

    Who cares about obsolete gaming benchmarks. Where are the DX12 3dMArk and Starswarm benchmarks.

    Are you afraid that AMD A10 APU's CRUSHES INTEL IGP?

    MORE SHYTE SCIENCE FROM ANANDHACK.
  • akamateau - Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - link

    Ian Cutress I dare you to run 3dMArk API Overhead Benchmark and Starswarm.

    Do you have the GUTS to tell the truth or do you just lie to your readers?

    DX11 is dead. Drive a stake through it.

    DX12 will allow AMD to CRUSH Intel products.
  • silverblue - Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - link

    For somebody who doesn't appear to like the site, or Ian Cutress for that matter, you do post the same criticisms multiple times albeit with small changes. Keep it to one post, drop the caps and drop the attitude - DirectX 12 is not finished yet, so screaming foul play isn't going to get you anywhere.

    In fact, you're so intent on gushing praise for AMD that I'm surprised you've not been accused of being either a troll or a paid shill by now.
  • Edens_Remorse - Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - link

    I'm not a paid shill or troll - that said I think it's a joke that this review comes a day before Godavari's release. I really should find a better word to use, "review" is a little too generous. And by a little too generous I actually mean - what an effn joke.
  • akamateau - Thursday, May 28, 2015 - link

    I agree with your assessment.

    These new AMD releases are intended for Winodws 10 and DX12 devices. Cutress has 3dMark API Overhead and Starswarm benchmarks but he refuses to use them as they show ALL Intel IGP performing at 50% less than AMD APU's.

    If you want to buid a great gaming machine and not pay a lot then buy AMD APU's. These new A10's will rock they 100% better than Haswell.

    Cutress knows this but Intel paid him to hide this from his readers.
  • akamateau - Thursday, May 28, 2015 - link

    Who are you the comment NAZI? LOL

    Is the best you got, whining because I made three posts?

    What IDIOT except you would believe that ANYONE is a paid shill. What a marroon! What are you a Paid Shill for AnandHACK.

    I detest lying media hacks who distort or hide the facts.

    As a consumer I demand the know the facts and if I have to challenge gutless lying writers then I will. Whenever and however I damm well please.
  • silverblue - Thursday, May 28, 2015 - link

    I'm a fetching dark shade of crimson? Well, I've been called worse. The point still stands, however - one post would've done it, and without half the rage that went into your previous submissions.

    Paid shill? I can only dream.

    Edens_Remorse - this is a "mini" review that Ian promised (a few days ago, I might add) to publish. The clue may not be in the URL (unfortunately), but it is in the article title. I wouldn't expect much from a mini-review.

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