Intel Haswell-EP 12 Cores Conclusion

At the beginning of the review we outlined what seemed like a shift in Intel's binning strategy when it comes to Haswell-EP. Given the lack of competition for in most areas of the server market (there are areas where other cores make more sense) Intel could do one of two things. The first option, stagnation, allows competitors to catch up while at the same time allowing Intel to perhaps improve on designs with little gain and little cost to research and development. Though one issue with stagnation, when you are your only competition, ultimately results in customers not wanting to upgrade and reduces revenue. The other option is diversification, and this is what we think is happening with the wide range of models available with Haswell-EP.

By discussing with their big customers, Intel now has several dozen CPU models for only three general dies. Most of these models are part of a road map and designed to improve yields, while others are for specific customers only or have longer life support. With the die product volume Intel has in its fabs, it has the opportunity to be very aggressive with its binning implementation, resulting in several high core, high frequency or low power models. In previous generations, customers could only pick one of those three, but with Haswell-EP most customers can hone in on at least two preferences.

Today we examined two of Intel's 12 core options: the 'typical' stack model in the E5-2690 V3, offering a 2.6 GHz base frequency at 135W for $2090, and the low power optimized E5-2650L V3 which offers a 1.8GHz base frequency, 2.5 GHz turbo, at 65W for $1330.

As expected, the E5-2690 V3 performed better in all of our benchmarks by virtue of the frequency advantage during both single core and multicore operation. In terms of performance for price, or performance per power, the E5-2650L V3 wins out here. At only 65% of the cost, and just under 50% of the power, the cost per computation per watt falls firmly on the side of the E5-2650L V3. Although for compute limited throughout, in absolute terms, the E5-2650L V3 still ends up slower and one of the weakest Xeons we have tested due to the frequency difference. One of the important factors missed by the performance-per-watt analogy is how many units of work, and the cost of that work is, per unit time.

As part of this review we were able to source two E5-2650L V3 CPUs with a dual CPU motherboard and offer a more competitive analysis at 130-135W total TDP against the E5-2690 V3. In these results, anything that was single threaded still fell on the side of the E5-2690 V3 due to its single core frequency advantage. Despite our predictions, relatively few software packages that we came across were won by the dual E5-2650L V3 system, making the E5-2690 V3 the CPU of choice. This was especially true for software that could use multiple cores but could not take advantage of a 2P arrangement. The best example of this is video conversion at low quality which relies on a lot of crosstalk between encoded frames and memory accesses that might not be NUMA aware.  The only reason in this regard to choose a 2x E5-2650L V3 over a 1x E5-2690 V3 would be for the double memory support, or for the few benchmarks where the 2P configuration won (Hybrid x265, Cinebench R15). The single CPU option is cheaper, easier to manage and works better across the board. 

Our next installment of Haswell-EP coverage involves two 14 core models. The 14 core design is a little odd, being outside of the regular scope normally considered for core counts (12/16) and representing a semi-irregular arrangement of cores. Ultimately it relies on the 18-core die being cut down. As always, our CPU review data from past and present can be found in the CPU section of our results comparison database, Bench

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  • vomitme - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    x264 and x265 are not formats. the formats are h.264 and h.265. x264 and x265 are just specific encoders for those formats.
  • marraco - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    The quantity of models, and their -purposely- confusing naming, paired with the scarcity of trustworthy reviews for all the models, make purchasing so difficult, that it discourages upgrades.

    Similarly named processors have huge differences in performance, and prices that don't match it. Worse, the jungle of models also extends to older CPU, not just the last iteration. An older CPU may be more powerful, cheaper, or many other things which add a lot of confusion.

    The asking prices are so high, that is better to not buy or upgrade, because the large number of processors rises the probability of making a wrong purchase. Is better not to run risks.
  • AtenRa - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    Seriously now, Web and Gaming benchmarks in 12 core XEON review ?? is that a joke or what ??
  • h4rm0ny - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    I'd like to see some citations that production costs between these chips are close to each other. Even allowing for that it's a naïve argument. Might as well say that the costs of Windows 8 and the movie Sharknado are the same because the production cost of the DVDs is the same in each case. Kind of misses the fact that billions are spent on R&D and that these costs must be recouped.

    I'm now picturing you in a shop demanding all books be priced at a set rate per page because "it costs the same to print per page, don't it?"

    (but still, citation that production costs actually are the same still required, please).
  • h4rm0ny - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    I'd like to see some citations that production costs between these chips are close to each other. Even allowing for that it's a naïve argument. Might as well say that the costs of Windows 8 and the movie Sharknado are the same because the production cost of the DVDs is the same in each case. Kind of misses the fact that billions are spent on R&D and that these costs must be recouped.

    I'm now picturing you in a shop demanding all books be priced at a set rate per page because "it costs the same to print per page, don't it?"

    (but still, citation that production costs actually are the same still required, please).
  • jabber - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    I'll look forward to playing around with these when I pick one up on Ebay for £40 in 4 years time.
  • Ytterbium - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    I wish, I have L5640 these are worth about $125, the E5-2650L is about $600, this is kinda a 2nd reflection of what was at the beginning of article, the older chips are still goo so they hold price.
  • Bytales - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    I got a dual Xeon 2690 v3 rig at home, paired with a GTX750Ti, and the Asus ROG Swift.
    Waiting for the big Maxwell.
    If anyone wants any tests done, give me a hawler !
  • Bytales - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    Here are some preliminary tests:
    http://www.overclock.net/t/1330326/build-log-sth10...
  • mastercde - Sunday, November 9, 2014 - link

    Redis is single threaded, not sure what the point is to benchmark.

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