Intel Haswell-EP 12 Cores Conclusion

At the beginning of the review we outlined what seemed like a shift in Intel's binning strategy when it comes to Haswell-EP. Given the lack of competition for in most areas of the server market (there are areas where other cores make more sense) Intel could do one of two things. The first option, stagnation, allows competitors to catch up while at the same time allowing Intel to perhaps improve on designs with little gain and little cost to research and development. Though one issue with stagnation, when you are your only competition, ultimately results in customers not wanting to upgrade and reduces revenue. The other option is diversification, and this is what we think is happening with the wide range of models available with Haswell-EP.

By discussing with their big customers, Intel now has several dozen CPU models for only three general dies. Most of these models are part of a road map and designed to improve yields, while others are for specific customers only or have longer life support. With the die product volume Intel has in its fabs, it has the opportunity to be very aggressive with its binning implementation, resulting in several high core, high frequency or low power models. In previous generations, customers could only pick one of those three, but with Haswell-EP most customers can hone in on at least two preferences.

Today we examined two of Intel's 12 core options: the 'typical' stack model in the E5-2690 V3, offering a 2.6 GHz base frequency at 135W for $2090, and the low power optimized E5-2650L V3 which offers a 1.8GHz base frequency, 2.5 GHz turbo, at 65W for $1330.

As expected, the E5-2690 V3 performed better in all of our benchmarks by virtue of the frequency advantage during both single core and multicore operation. In terms of performance for price, or performance per power, the E5-2650L V3 wins out here. At only 65% of the cost, and just under 50% of the power, the cost per computation per watt falls firmly on the side of the E5-2650L V3. Although for compute limited throughout, in absolute terms, the E5-2650L V3 still ends up slower and one of the weakest Xeons we have tested due to the frequency difference. One of the important factors missed by the performance-per-watt analogy is how many units of work, and the cost of that work is, per unit time.

As part of this review we were able to source two E5-2650L V3 CPUs with a dual CPU motherboard and offer a more competitive analysis at 130-135W total TDP against the E5-2690 V3. In these results, anything that was single threaded still fell on the side of the E5-2690 V3 due to its single core frequency advantage. Despite our predictions, relatively few software packages that we came across were won by the dual E5-2650L V3 system, making the E5-2690 V3 the CPU of choice. This was especially true for software that could use multiple cores but could not take advantage of a 2P arrangement. The best example of this is video conversion at low quality which relies on a lot of crosstalk between encoded frames and memory accesses that might not be NUMA aware.  The only reason in this regard to choose a 2x E5-2650L V3 over a 1x E5-2690 V3 would be for the double memory support, or for the few benchmarks where the 2P configuration won (Hybrid x265, Cinebench R15). The single CPU option is cheaper, easier to manage and works better across the board. 

Our next installment of Haswell-EP coverage involves two 14 core models. The 14 core design is a little odd, being outside of the regular scope normally considered for core counts (12/16) and representing a semi-irregular arrangement of cores. Ultimately it relies on the 18-core die being cut down. As always, our CPU review data from past and present can be found in the CPU section of our results comparison database, Bench

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  • SanX - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    All that is secondary to production cost. Trying to emphasize that the production cost of Intel chips is barely 30-50 bucks at the most. Probably much less since those mibile chips still get the profit. Some 4 core mobile chips with 1 billion transistors are already sold for 4 dollars and still bring the profit
  • Death666Angel - Sunday, November 9, 2014 - link

    Those guys do not invest anything in R&D and the chips are much smaller due to less complex cores and uncore areas.
  • dragonsqrrl - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    Trollolololol
  • ruthan - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    Very great article theme, i can complain about some particular things in article, but in general im really grateful that such article exist at all.
  • ruthan - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    To results, i would like to see comparison 65W Xeon with Core i7 architecture -65W model - 4590S head to head.

    In comparison Core i7 3770k - for 320$ and this 1320$ is 1000 bucks for what?
    + 25% of performance in most of multi threaded benchmarks and - 5% in gaming and generally limited mainboard choice and + for ECC memory.

    If there would be +50% in multithreaded apps i would consider Xeon for my workstation, otherwise it does make no sense. 12 weak cores is nothing to be excited, or my good for some web, DB server, or visualization - here im still curious about results.
  • LeptonX - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    Something wrong with the results they seem inconsistent, why doesn't 2687W v3 mop the floor with 5960X? By all means it should as it have both more cores and more cache, yet it loses to the i7 by a quite significant margin sometimes. Is that the result of using the bigger die which is quite different in cores arrangement and also have bigger but slower cache. Still, I think it should win practically everywhere and yet it even manages to loses to its predecessor(2687 V2) in Linux-Bench NPD FD and the margin of victory of 5960X is strangely high. Were they tested in different motherboards or even with MCE enabled on 5960X and disabled on 2687W V3? How can you explain those results?
  • Ytterbium - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    MCE doesn't work with Xeon's I have 2687 V2 & had 4960x, so it could be that.
  • kordian - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    Why are you guys doing gaming benchmarks on server processors? No one is buying $2500 processors for gaming when a $500-$1000 i7 will do just as well or better at it.

    Where are the server workload benchmarks that used to accompany Xeon reviews? I want database benchmarks, not Tomb Raider benches.

    Also, the power delta is stupid/useless, as others have pointed out. Higher deltas could mean less efficient, or better at idling, and there's no way to tell which is which.
  • esterhasz - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    Yeah, this is a strange review. Browser benchmarks? Games? Send the chips to Johan already.
  • Samus - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    Man that's an amazing CPU for $2000...

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