Intel Haswell-EP 12 Cores Conclusion

At the beginning of the review we outlined what seemed like a shift in Intel's binning strategy when it comes to Haswell-EP. Given the lack of competition for in most areas of the server market (there are areas where other cores make more sense) Intel could do one of two things. The first option, stagnation, allows competitors to catch up while at the same time allowing Intel to perhaps improve on designs with little gain and little cost to research and development. Though one issue with stagnation, when you are your only competition, ultimately results in customers not wanting to upgrade and reduces revenue. The other option is diversification, and this is what we think is happening with the wide range of models available with Haswell-EP.

By discussing with their big customers, Intel now has several dozen CPU models for only three general dies. Most of these models are part of a road map and designed to improve yields, while others are for specific customers only or have longer life support. With the die product volume Intel has in its fabs, it has the opportunity to be very aggressive with its binning implementation, resulting in several high core, high frequency or low power models. In previous generations, customers could only pick one of those three, but with Haswell-EP most customers can hone in on at least two preferences.

Today we examined two of Intel's 12 core options: the 'typical' stack model in the E5-2690 V3, offering a 2.6 GHz base frequency at 135W for $2090, and the low power optimized E5-2650L V3 which offers a 1.8GHz base frequency, 2.5 GHz turbo, at 65W for $1330.

As expected, the E5-2690 V3 performed better in all of our benchmarks by virtue of the frequency advantage during both single core and multicore operation. In terms of performance for price, or performance per power, the E5-2650L V3 wins out here. At only 65% of the cost, and just under 50% of the power, the cost per computation per watt falls firmly on the side of the E5-2650L V3. Although for compute limited throughout, in absolute terms, the E5-2650L V3 still ends up slower and one of the weakest Xeons we have tested due to the frequency difference. One of the important factors missed by the performance-per-watt analogy is how many units of work, and the cost of that work is, per unit time.

As part of this review we were able to source two E5-2650L V3 CPUs with a dual CPU motherboard and offer a more competitive analysis at 130-135W total TDP against the E5-2690 V3. In these results, anything that was single threaded still fell on the side of the E5-2690 V3 due to its single core frequency advantage. Despite our predictions, relatively few software packages that we came across were won by the dual E5-2650L V3 system, making the E5-2690 V3 the CPU of choice. This was especially true for software that could use multiple cores but could not take advantage of a 2P arrangement. The best example of this is video conversion at low quality which relies on a lot of crosstalk between encoded frames and memory accesses that might not be NUMA aware.  The only reason in this regard to choose a 2x E5-2650L V3 over a 1x E5-2690 V3 would be for the double memory support, or for the few benchmarks where the 2P configuration won (Hybrid x265, Cinebench R15). The single CPU option is cheaper, easier to manage and works better across the board. 

Our next installment of Haswell-EP coverage involves two 14 core models. The 14 core design is a little odd, being outside of the regular scope normally considered for core counts (12/16) and representing a semi-irregular arrangement of cores. Ultimately it relies on the 18-core die being cut down. As always, our CPU review data from past and present can be found in the CPU section of our results comparison database, Bench

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  • colinstu - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    that's what I was thinking too
  • Flunk - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    It's a bit annoying, that despite it's ability to produce 16-core behemoths, Intel is still only setting 4-core chips in it's mainstream line. There is plenty of room for product differentiation here, but I guess lack of competition means Intel doesn't have any reason to add cores.
  • tim851 - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    > but I guess lack of competition means Intel doesn't have any reason to add cores
    Yup.
    That's why it's lame to be a fanboy. You want many companies to succeed in a market with good product substitution.
  • SuperVeloce - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    Mainstream line does not need more than 4 HT cores. If you need more, haswell-E and haswell-EP are available to you. 5820k is low cost if you want or have need for a x99 chipset and ddr4.
  • Black Obsidian - Friday, November 7, 2014 - link

    Yeah, it's not lack of competition, it's lack of any good reason whatsoever to sell >4 cores into the mainstream market. Only a vanishingly tiny percentage of users can even fully utilize 4 cores; for those who can (and could use more), there exists both the enthusiast desktop and Xeon workstation segments.
  • Wolfpup - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    This is insane. You can now have TWELVE Haswell cores FOR LESS POWER THAN MY 2004 PRESCOTT Pentium 4!

    That is freaking amazing.

    And while it's hopeless that I'll ever get to run something like this (probably even for a sever at work, much less in a desktop PC like I'd like), it's still freaking amazing to see what's possible :-D
  • Shadowmaster625 - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    In Bioshock, why do several more expensive and newer chips only produce half the minimum framrates vs a 3770K????
  • TeXWiller - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    What should be common to all those processors with lower results in Bioshock minimum frame rates is the added latency at the L3 or memory controller/system agent level. An easy test to see how much it can effect test results is to drop the frequency of the memory controller. The effect can be as much as half the performance for a 200 MHz drop, depending on the test (SPECviewperf 12 for me).
  • SanX - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    Apple A8 chip costs $18
    Mediatek 8-core chip costs $12
    Intel 8-core chip costs $600-2000

    Monopoly rulezz
  • Guspaz - Thursday, November 6, 2014 - link

    You're comparing different parts with different performance sold in different volumes to different markets for different purposes. How many A8 chips would it take to get the performance of an 8-core Haswell chip? 32? 64? The dollars-per-MIPS might not be as different as their overall costs.

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