The Competition

It is no secret that AMD is attempting to fire a shot across Intel’s Bay Trail. The low power x86 desktop space is almost all AMD vs. Intel (VIA still produces x86 parts), and the socketed direction for AMD’s Kabini is a new approach in this area. The claim of low power, quad core and low cost is something that entry-level desktop integrators might find hard to ignore – in fact AMD have stated that the feedback from their Latin America integrators for an upgradeable Kabini solution is very good.

While we have not necessarily looked at Bay Trail from a desktop perspective, there are products on the market today. In the UK for example, it is easy enough to purchase an Intel Celeron J1800-based motherboard and have it shipped next-day delivery. 

AMD considers the Athlon 5350/5150 parts (quad core, 2.05 GHz and 1.6 GHz) in line with Intel's Pentium J2850/J2900, and the Sempron 3850 with the J1850/J1900 - all Silvermont based SoCs. In fact, I think the 5350 vs the J1900 is a better fit:

AMD Athlon 5350 vs. Intel Celeron J1900
  Athlon 5350 Celeron J1900
CPU Architecture Jaguar Silvermont
CPU Cores 4 4
CPU Frequency 2.05 GHz 2.0 GHz
2.4 GHz Turbo
GPU Cores 128 SPs 4 EUs
GPU Frequency 600 MHz 688 MHz
Memory Interface 1 x 64-bit 2 x 64-bit
Memory Frequency 1600 MHz 1333 MHz
L2 Cache 2 MB 2 MB
TDP 25 W 10 W
Price $55 $82

The big issue that AMD will point out is the price of the J1900. One of AMD’s big selling points will be the price of an APU and a motherboard, which as we discussed earlier should stretch from $56 to $90 depending on the APU/motherboard. On ark.intel.com, Intel does list the tray price of the J1900 as $82, however you can find a motherboard with integrated J1900 at Newegg for $92. Now either the motherboard manufacturer is getting a good deal on the CPU below tray price (most likely), or Intel is subsiding the cost, or the tray price is incorrect. We can only speculate, but it does mean that the Athlon 5350 and J1900 square off in terms of cost.

For CPU core counts and frequency, the 5350 and J1900 are closely matched with both being quad core parts at ~2.0 GHz, although the J1900 can boost up to 2.4GHz. AMD likely holds the GPU advantage with its R3 graphics/Radeon HD 8400 compared to Intel's 4 EU HD Graphics. With the Athlon there is a higher supported memory frequency, but only a 64-bit wide memory interface. That might hamper the IGP in our testing, and provide memory limited benchmarks an easy ride on the J1900. There's a pretty substantial TDP difference between the two as well, with Intel holding the theoretical power advantage. Intel does make a 20W Silvermont based SKU, the Atom C2750, although that is an 8 core module aimed at servers and costs $171.

The Test

Our AM1 Kabini coverage will be in two parts due to time constraints. This first part of the review is to explain the ecosystem with some Athlon 5350 numbers to compare against other platforms including a couple of Bay Trail and older Intel parts. We aim to publish a second review next week with more numbers, specifically a wider range of Kabini APUs and the key battle of the 5350 against the J1900. We were unfortunate to not be able to source a J1900 in time for this launch.

Our main Kabini Test Setup is as follows:

Test Setup
CPU AMD Athlon 5350
Quad Core, 2.05 GHz
Motherboard GIGABYTE AM1M-S2H
Memory 2x4GB DDR3-1600 9-10-10
SSD SF-2281
Power Supply Antec High Current Pro 1200
Graphics Integrated
Graphics Drivers 14.3 Beta

For other platforms:

Test Setup
CPU Motherboard Platform Cores /
Threads
Frequency IGP
AMD
A6-5200
ASRock
IMB-A180-H
Kabini 4 2.0 GHz HD 8400
Intel Celeron
J1800
GIGABYTE
J1800N-D2H
Bay Trail 2 2.4 GHz HD (Ivy)
Intel Atom
C2750
ASRock
C2750D4I
Avoton 8 2.4 GHz None
Intel Celeron
G1101
MSI
Big Bang Fuzion
Nehalem 2 2.3 GHz Not Tested
no IGP outputs
Intel Celeron
G465
ASUS
Maximus V Gene
Sandy Bridge 1 / 2 1.9 GHz HD (Sandy)
Intel Celeron
G2030
ASUS
Maximus V Gene
Ivy Bridge 2 3.0 GHz HD (Ivy)

Other results in this review were taken from our AMD Kaveri launch review.

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  • tomsworkshop - Friday, April 11, 2014 - link

    i think these chips are nice for 12"-13" slim laptop, and don't if it is soldered on board, is about time they replace the current E350 APU on mobo with jaguar core chips, maybe the GDDR5 sideport memory onboard will be a nice feature.
  • Hrel - Friday, April 11, 2014 - link

    I don't even know why they're bothering, these performance numbers are useless.
  • Oscarcharliezulu - Saturday, April 12, 2014 - link

    PC's wont compete with tablets by being cheap, they compete by being awesome - 4k screens, fast ssd's, great 3d graphics, cloud storage so you can work anywhere, great games at ultra HD....
  • hangfirew8 - Monday, April 14, 2014 - link

    ...and a full-sized keyboard and mouse.
  • Antronman - Monday, April 21, 2014 - link

    Microsoft solved that problem.
    Heck, some of the Surface tablets have serious CPU computing power.
    PCs compete by having better price/performance, and yes being generally better.

    I'd like to see UE4 on an iPad air :P
  • plonk420 - Sunday, April 13, 2014 - link

    on my 19 watt E-350 (microATX, also see http://www.anandtech.com/show/4996/ ), i removed the tiny, possibly whiny fan, and secured a PWM 120mm Arctic Cooling fan over it. that with a PC Power and Cooling Silencer, and it was so quiet, i could hear my fridge and other PCs around the apartment, it was so quiet.
  • fteoath64 - Sunday, April 13, 2014 - link

    How could a dual core chip clocked at less than 1.5Ghz with gpu at 400Mhz have a TDP of 25 watts ?!!!. Even an Arm chip clocked at 1.9Ghz have a TDP of about 5 watts. How can x86 compete really in terms of price performance and power ?!. These are throw away chips with such power consumption levels.
  • 0ldman79 - Sunday, April 13, 2014 - link

    Any way we could get some FX processors in the benches?

    I know that AM3+ is probably a dead line, but we've still got the machines out in the world. I'd like to know where my PC lines up without having to find an FX 6300 compared to a Core i5 compared to an A8.
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  • duploxxx - Monday, April 14, 2014 - link

    And yet again we have to find out that in the conclusion the review start to focus on cpu performance only and compairing with totally different types of cpu to make this kabini look bad especially the single threaded performance. while it is on par with latest generation of intel or on multithreaded way better.
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7933/the-desktop-kab...

    not a single word in the conclusions on graphics which again shows how bad all these intel parts really are... even these latest generations.

    I often wonder that reviewer background and how neutral they actually are and look at a certain system from a certain perspective, sure my ferrari will run faster then a fiat, but look at the purpose and design...

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