Choosing a Gaming CPU October 2013: i7-4960X, i5-4670K, Nehalem and Intel Update
by Ian Cutress on October 3, 2013 10:05 AM ESTFor an article like this getting a range of CPUs, which includes the most common and popular, is very important. I have been at AnandTech for just over two years now, and in that time we have had Sandy Bridge, Llano, Bulldozer, Sandy Bridge-E, Ivy Bridge, Trinity and Vishera, of which I tend to get supplied the top end processors of each generation for testing (as a motherboard reviewer, it is important to make the motherboard the limiting factor). A lot of users have jumped to one of these platforms, although a large number are still on Wolfdale (Core2), Nehalem, Westmere, Phenom II (Thuban/Zosma/Deneb) or Athlon II. I have attempted to pool all my AnandTech resources, contacts, and personal resources, together to get a good spread of the current ecosystem, with more focus on the modern end of the spectrum. It is worth nothing that a multi-GPU user is more likely to have the top line Ivy Bridge, Vishera or Sandy Bridge-E CPU, as well as a top range motherboard, rather than an old Wolfdale. As time progresses I hope to obtain greater ranges of CPU speeds, core counts, and caches to suit almost all tastes.
The CPUs
My criteria for obtaining CPUs was to use at least one from the most recent architectures, as well as a range of cores/modules/threads/speeds. The basic list as it stands is shown below, with the CPU.GPU on the left showing what we were able to test:
VIA | |||||||||
CPU | GPU | Name | IGP | Socket | C / M (T) | Speed | Turbo | L2/L3 | |
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L2007 | Nano | BGA400 | 1 (1) | 1600 | 1 MB / - | ||||
AMD | |||||||||
CPU | GPU | Name | IGP | Socket | C / M (T) | Speed | Turbo | L2/L3 | |
E-350 | Fusion | FT1 | 2 (2) | 1600 | 1 MB / - | ||||
A6-3650 | Llano | FM1 | 4 (4) | 2600 | 4 MB / - | ||||
A8-3850 | Llano | FM1 | 4 (4) | 2900 | 4 MB / - | ||||
A8-5600K | Trinity | FM2 | 2 (4) | 3600 | 3900 | 4 MB / - | |||
A10-5800K | Trinity | FM2 | 2 (4) | 3800 | 4200 | 4 MB / - | |||
A6-5200 | Kabini | FT3 | 4 (4) | 2000 | 2 MB / - | ||||
Phenom II X2-555 BE |
Callisto K10 | AM3 | 2 (2) | 3200 | 1 MB / 6 MB | ||||
Phenom II X4-960T |
Zosma K10 | AM3 | 4 (4) | 3200 | 2 MB / 6 MB | ||||
Phenom II X6-1100T |
Thuban K10 | AM3 | 6 (6) | 3300 | 3700 | 3 MB / 6 MB | |||
FX-8150 | Bulldozer | AM3+ | 4 (8) | 3600 | 4200 | 8 MB / 8 MB | |||
FX-8350 | Piledriver | AM3+ | 4 (8) | 4000 | 4200 | 8 MB / 8 MB | |||
Intel | |||||||||
CPU | GPU | Name | IGP | Socket | C / M (T) | Speed | Turbo | L2/L3 | |
E6400 | Conroe | 775 | 2 (2) | 2133 | 2 MB / - | ||||
E6550 | Conroe | 775 | 2 (2) | 2333 | 4 MB / - | ||||
E6700 | Conroe | 775 | 2 (2) | 2667 | 4 MB / - | ||||
Q9400 | Yorkfield | 775 | 4 (4) | 2667 | 6 MB / - | ||||
Core i7-920 |
Nehalem | 1366 | 4 (8) | 2667 | 2933 | 1 MB / 8 MB | |||
Core i7-950 |
Nehalem | 1366 | 4 (8) | 3067 | 3333 | 1 MB / 8 MB | |||
Core i7-990X |
Westmere | 1366 | 6 (12) | 3467 | 3733 | 1.5 MB / 12 MB | |||
Xeon X5690 |
Westmere | 1366 | 6 (12) | 3467 | 3733 | 1.5 MB / 12 MB | |||
2 x Xeon X5690 |
Westmere | 1366 | 12 (24) | 3467 | 3733 | 1.5 MB / 12 MB | |||
Celeron 847 |
Sandy Bridge ULV |
BGA1023 | 2 (2) | 1100 | 0.5 MB / 2 MB | ||||
Celeron G465 |
Sandy Bridge |
1155 | 1 (2) | 1900 | 0.25 MB / 1.5 MB | ||||
Core i5-2500K |
Sandy Bridge |
1155 | 4 (4) | 3300 | 3700 | 1 MB / 6 MB | |||
Core i7-2600K |
Sandy Bridge |
1155 | 4 (8) | 3400 | 3800 | 1 MB / 8 MB | |||
Core i7-3930K |
Sandy Bridge-E |
2011 | 6 (12) | 3200 | 3800 | 1.5 MB / 12 MB | |||
Core i7-3960X |
Sandy Bridge-E |
2011 | 6 (12) | 3300 | 3900 | 1.5 MB / 15 MB | |||
2 x Xeon E5-2690 |
Sandy Bridge-EP |
2011 | 16 (32) | 2900 | 3800 | 2 MB / 20 MB | |||
4 x Xeon E5-4650L |
Sandy Bridge-EP |
2011 | 32 (64) | 2600 | 3100 | 2 MB / 20 MB | |||
Core i3-3225 |
Ivy Bridge | 1155 | 2 (4) | 3300 | 0.5 MB / 3 MB | ||||
Core i7-3770K |
Ivy Bridge | 1155 | 4 (8) | 3500 | 3900 | 1 MB / 8 MB | |||
Core i7-4960X |
Ivy Bridge-E | 2011 | 6 (12) | 3600 | 4000 | 1.5 MB / 15 MB | |||
Core i5-4430 |
Haswell | 1150 | 4 (4) | 3000 | 3200 | 1 MB / 6 MB | |||
Core i5-4670K |
Haswell | 1150 | 4 (4) | 3400 | 3800 | 1 MB / 6 MB | |||
Core i7-4770K |
Haswell | 1150 | 4 (8) | 3500 | 3900 | 1 MB / 8 MB | |||
Core i7-4750HQ |
Haswell + Crystalwell |
BGA1364 | 4 (8) | 2000 | 3200 |
1 MB / 6 MB 128 MB L4 |
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Xeon E3-1280 V3 |
Haswell | 1150 | 4 (8) | 3600 | 4000 | 1 MB / 8 MB | |||
Xeon E3-1285 V3 |
Haswell | 1150 | 4 (8) | 3600 | 4000 | 1 MB / 8 MB |
Note: the indication on the left hand side is whether we have tested the CPU in terms of our CPU tests or our GPU tests. In certain circumstances GPU tests were unavailable, but the CPU tests provide interesting data points.
This is Part 2 of our Gaming CPU series, with Part 1 covering a basic range of CPUs and a Haswell update covering the i7-4770K. For Part 2 this is primarily an Intel 4670K/Nehalem update, whereas Part 3 of our testing will focus on the AMD side. I currently have many AMD CPUs in house (Richland, Trinity, K10) and am on the request list for a few more (Vishera, more Richland).
The GPUs
My first and foremost thanks go to both ASUS and ECS for supplying me with these GPUs for my test beds. They have been in and out of 60+ motherboards without any issue, and will hopefully continue. My usual scenario for updating GPUs is to flip AMD/NVIDIA every couple of generations – last time it was HD5850 to HD7970, and as such in the future we will move to a 7-series NVIDIA card or a set of Titans (which might outlive a generation or two).
The ASUS HD 7970 we use is the reference model at the 7970 launch, using GCN architecture, 2048 SPs at 925 MHz with 3 GB of 4.6 GHz GDDR5 memory. We had four cards to be used in 1x, 2x, 3x and 4x configurations where possible, also using PCIe 3.0 when enabled by default, although for this update we were limited to three.
ECS GTX 580 (NGTX580-1536PI-F)
ECS is both a motherboard manufacturer and an NVIDIA card manufacturer, and while most of their VGA models are sold outside of the US, some do make it onto e-e-tailers like Newegg. This GTX 580 is also a reference model, with 512 CUDA cores at 772 MHz and 1.5 GB of 4 GHz GDDR5 memory. We have two cards to be used in 1x and 2x configurations at PCIe 2.0.
The Motherboards
The CPU is not always the main part of the picture for this sort of review – the motherboard is equally important as the motherboard dictates how the CPU and the GPU communicates with each other, and what the lane allocation will be. As mentioned on the previous page, there are 20+ PCIe configurations for Z87/Z77 alone when you consider some boards are native, some use a PLX 8747 chip, others use two PLX 8747 chips, and about half of the Z87/Z77 motherboards on the market enable four PCIe 2.0 lanes from the chipset for CrossFireX use (at high latency). We have tried to be fair and take motherboards that may have a small premium but are equipped to deal with the job. As a result, some motherboards may also use MultiCore Turbo, which as we have detailed in the past, gives the top turbo speed of the CPU regardless of the loading.
As a result of this lane allocation business, each value in our review will be attributed to both a CPU, whether it uses MCT, and a lane allocation.
Motherboards | |||
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Socket | Chipset | Motherboard | PCIe |
1150 | Z87 | ASUS Z87-Pro | PCIe 3.0 x8/x8 + PCIe 2.0 x4 |
MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming | PCIe 3.0 x8/x8/x4 | ||
GIGABYTE Z87X-UD3H | PCIe 3.0 x8/x8 + PCIe 2.0 x4 | ||
MSI Z87 XPower | PCIe 3.0 x8/x8/x8/x8 via PLX8747 | ||
1155 | Z77 | ASUS Maximus V Formula | PCIe 3.0 x8/x4/x4 |
GIGABYTE Z77X-UP7 | PCIe 3.0 x8/x8/x8/x8 via PLX8747 | ||
GIGABYTE G1.Sniper M3 | PCIe 3.0 x8/x8 or x16 + PCIe 2.0 x4 | ||
2011 | X79 | ASRock X79 Professional | PCIe 2.0 x16/x8/x8/x8 |
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme | PCIe 3.0 x16/x8/x8/x8 | ||
Gigabyte X79-UD3 | PCIe 3.0 x16/x8/x8/x8 | ||
1366 | X58 | GIGABYTE X58A-UD9 | PCIe 2.0 x16/x16/x16/x16 via NF200 |
ASRock X58 Extreme3 | PCIe 2.0 x16/x16 + x4 | ||
5520 | EVGA SR-2 | PCIe 2.0 x16/x16/x16/x16 via NF200 | |
775 | 975X | MSI Platinum Power Up | PCIe 1.1 x8/x8 |
P965 | ASUS Commando | PCIe 1.1 x16 + x4 | |
FM1 | A75 | GIGABYTE A75-UD4H | PCIe 2.0 x8/x8 |
ASRock A75 Extreme6 | PCIe 2.0 x8/x8 + x4 | ||
FM2 | A85X | GIGABYTE F2A85X-UP4 | PCIe 2.0 x8/x8 + x4 |
AM3 | 990FX | ASUS Crosshair V Formula | PCIe 2.0 x16/x8/x8 |
BGA400 | VX900 | ECS VX900-I | N/A |
BGA1023 | NM70 | ECS NM70-I2 | N/A |
FT3 | A6-5200 | ASRock IMB-A180-H | N/A |
The Memory
Our good friends at G.Skill are putting their best foot forward in supplying us with high end kits to test. The issue with the memory is more dependent on what the motherboard will support – in order to keep testing consistent, no overclocks were performed. This meant that boards and BIOSes limited to a certain DRAM multiplier were set at the maximum multiplier possible. In order to keep things fairer overall, the modules were adjusted for tighter timings. All of this is noted in our final setup lists.
Our main memory testing kit is our trusty G.Skill 4x4 GB DDR3-2400 9-11-11 1.65 V RipjawsX kit which has been part of our motherboard testing for over twelve months. For times when we had two systems being tested side by side, a G.Skill 4x4 GB DDR3-2400 10-12-12 1.65 V TridentX kit was also used.
For The Beast, which is one of the systems that has the issue with higher memory dividers, we pulled in a pair of tri-channel kits from X58 testing. These are high-end kits as well, currently discontinued as they tended to stop working with too much voltage. We have a sets of 3x2 GB OCZ Blade DDR3-2133 8-9-8 and 3x1 GB Dominator GT DDR3-2000 7-8-7 for this purpose, which we ran at 1333 6-7-6 due to motherboard limitations at stock settings.
Our Core2Duo CPUs clearly gets their own DDR2 memory for completeness. This is a 2x2 GB kit of OCZ Platinum DDR2-666 5-5-5.
For Haswell we were offered new kits for testing, this time from Corsair and their Vengeance Pro series. This is a 2x8 GB kit of DDR3-2400 10-12-12 1.65 V.
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Democrab - Friday, October 4, 2013 - link
It's not really representative of most games, everyone knows it's highly CPU limited...Most games are GPU limited as proven by this, yet a lot of people seem unaware of that.Spoelie - Thursday, October 3, 2013 - link
Another choice I was considering for gaming: the i5 3350p.This is the cheapest i5 available on this side of the pond and still Ivy, so it allows the 4 bin overclocking. Since haswell, intel does not allow any overclocking anymore for non-K parts.
In addition, Z77 motherboards are quite a bit cheaper than Z87 for the moment.
So for a 30$+ cheaper than the 4430, you get 3.7/3.6/3.6/3.5ghz Ivy vs 3.2/3.0ghz Haswell.
The platform isn't that upgradeable but with Intel moving to 2-year cadences for desktop upgrades, the performance should stay relevant for at least 4 years...
mrdude - Thursday, October 3, 2013 - link
Amazing article, Ian. Thanks a ton.It's shocking to see how well the dual core Intel parts and the two-module AMD chips fare, even at 1440p with a single GPU. With respect to single-GPU gaming, opting to pull some $ out of the CPU/MB fund in order to buy a better GPU is certainly more advisable.
Those who invested in the X58/1366 platform certainly got their money's worth. Frankly, even buying a secondhand 1366 platform is a good idea if it's cheaper than a new quad-core 1155/1150 + mobo. Going from an SSD running on 3GB/s to 6GB/s really isn't noticeable. I've done this twice on two separate platforms and the only difference I've seen is with respect to bootup speed.
You also have to figure that this graph will change with the newer generation of console ports. I have an inclining that 2/4 threads might stumble a bit with some more demanding titles. We might even see AVX play a more significant role as well
cbrownx88 - Thursday, October 3, 2013 - link
BF4 is gonna bump me from X58 I believe... way more CPU bound than BF3 (1920x1200@4.2ghz)snouter - Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - link
BF4 makes my 4930k work more than I thought it would.BOMBOVA - Friday, October 4, 2013 - link
i am reviving my x58 MSI board, with Syba sata 3 controller, and i really notice a difference on my long video editing files. that was my whole point of modding up. Cheers. good discussionchizow - Thursday, October 3, 2013 - link
I really appreciated what this article tried to accomplish, and I think it does shed some light on some aspects of what you were trying to test...but someone at AnandTech couldn't throw you a bone and get you a pair of higher-end GPUs to test? 580s are a bit long in the tooth to garner any meaningful results. Maybe Gigabyte could have kicked a pair of 680s to you?Also, it would have been nice to see some Battlefield 3 results, since it is widely touted as a title that scales extremely well with both CPU (and shows big differences with HT) and GPU, especially in MultiPlayer, and will be especially relevant in the next few months as Battlefield 4 launches.
dusk007 - Thursday, October 3, 2013 - link
I find testing for CPU performance is not a strong suit of reviewers. The test has lots of data but it is missing the situations that gamers end up in which do require CPU performance.Starcraft 2. Just run a replay of an 8 player map at 4x-8x speed and most dual core notebooks practically break down.
Total War set unit size to epic and run some huge battle. That is where this games is great but it drains cpu resources like crazy.
Shooters or racing games are examples where the CPU has to do nothing but feed the GPU which is really the least CPU intensive stuff. Mulitplayer adds quite a bit of overhead but it is still not something if you play you need to worry much about your CPU.
When testing CPU performance kick all those shooters to the curve and focus on RTS games with huge unit sizes.
It is the minimum frames at these games that require CPU performance. The situations where it gets annoying that in the biggest battles the CPU cannot keep up. Starcraft 2 on medium runs on almost any GPU but it can bring slower CPU quickly to its limits.
IanCutress - Thursday, October 3, 2013 - link
COH2 is planned for our next benchmark update to cover the RTS side. I know Rome II is also a possibility, assuming we can get a good benchmark together. As I mentioned, if possible I'd like to batch file it up so I can work on other things rather than moderate a 5 minute benchmark (x4 for repetitions for a single number, x4-8 for GPU configs to complete a CPU analysis, x25+ CPUs for scope).If you have any other suggestions for the 2014 update, please let me know - email address is in the article (or click on my name at the top).
Ian
anubis44 - Saturday, October 5, 2013 - link
"COH2 is planned for our next benchmark update to cover the RTS side."Excellent. This is one of my most-played games. In addition, I wouldn't be surprised if subsequent patches for this game didn't noticeably improve it's multi-threaded performance, so having older results will be nice to have once these patches are released in order to track the improvements.