Battlefield 3

Its popularity aside, Battlefield 3 may be the most interesting game in our benchmark suite for a single reason: it’s the first AAA DX10+ game. It’s been 5 years since the launch of the first DX10 GPUs, and 3 whole process node shrinks later we’re finally to the point where games are using DX10’s functionality as a baseline rather than an addition. Not surprisingly BF3 is one of the best looking games in our suite, but as with past Battlefield games that beauty comes with a high performance cost

For anyone keeping score, we reran all of our numbers after the recent Battlefield 3 Radeon HD 7000 series performance patch. The results are virtually identical. While we don’t have official confirmation, we believe that DICE switched to a different FXAA codepath; however doing this doesn’t seem to have impacted the performance of the 7000 series, which is either a testament to AMD’s shader compiler, or proof that the overhead from FXAA is very low in the first place.

In any case while AMD’s BF3 performance has improved since the 7970 launch, it’s still one of their weaker games. The 7870 can hang with the GTX 570 at 1920 but the 7850 once more falls behind the GTX 560 Ti. The 7850 in particular just isn’t doing very well here, and it would be necessary to drop down in settings or in resolution to get fluid gameplay out of BF3. However at the same time we do see some further evidence of the impact of having 2GB of VRAM, as both 7800 cards improve relative to NVIDIA’s cards at 2560.

Meanwhile compared to the 6900 series, the 7800 series takes another small lead. At 19x12 without MSAA the 7870 has 5% on the 6970, while the 7850 is effectively tied with the 6950. It’s interesting to note however that relative to the 7950, the 7870 is doing very well here, trailing AMD’s faster card by less than 4%. The fact of the matter is that with the same basic frontend and the same number of ROPs, the 7870’s 1GHz core clock can significantly eat into the performance lead of the 7950 if the 7950 is primarily performance bound by either of those two rendering stages.

Portal 2 Starcraft II
POST A COMMENT

173 Comments

View All Comments

  • DeViLzzz - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link

    It is not the dumbest statement ever. Have you looked at multiple sites benchmarks ? Clearly a 2 GB 6950 Power Color flashed to a 6970 or a 6970 is worth keeping. Hardly an improvement over those situations for the price you would be paying for a 7870 and 7850. Reply
  • ExarKun333 - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link

    Then you don't follow the graphic card industry very well at all. Reply
  • MadAd - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link

    did i just read a different review? looking at this i did - Im on the 6950 and no theres not enough performance difference.

    also, comparing apples to oranges and saying theres a gain isnt going to work - if someones going to OC a 7*** then im sure they have also OC their 6***, so comparing a straight 6*** to the 7*** OC results and calling it a difference is smoke and mirrors.
    Reply
  • cactusdog - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link

    You guys dont get it. Why are you comparing the 7870 to a 6950? Should be the 6870 but even then The 7870 smashes the 6950 when overclocked. the 7870 performs like a stock 7970 when overclocked. You cant compare overclocking on the 6 series to the 7 series. The 7 series is the sandy bridge of GPUs.

    Why compare last gens high end to this gens mid range? If you have a 6950/6970 you should be looking at a 7950/7970. A 7950/7970 will give you 70% increase in performance when overclocked. AMD left heaps of overclocking headroom for easy overclocking.

    Sure, the price is a little high now, but just wait a few weeks until Nvidia cards arrive and prices will come down. New tech is always a little expensive when it first comes out but no one is forcing you to buy now. Just wait a couple of weeks
    Reply
  • Kiste - Tuesday, March 6, 2012 - link

    "Why compare last gens high end to this gens mid range?"

    Because were introduced at the same price point. Video card names/numbers are completely arbitrary, you have to compare cards at a given price point.
    Reply
  • xrror - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link

    So I have one the the early 6950 2GB cards unlocked to 1536 shaders, and a 935/1275 overclock.

    Running at 1920x1200 in skyrim with the high resolution texture packs from Bethesda starts to lag.

    Yes I'm being petty, but as a PC gaming smoe, I'm looking for a card that's under $300 that will dominate what I have.

    I can't find a confident vote for a strong successor in the sub $300 range to replace my current card.

    This makes me sad. Also with all the growing pains 69xx series had - and AMD's dumping of VLIW4 makes me pretty sure 69xx is a dead end for any future driver improvements.

    Maybe I can sell my 6950 for $100 to subsidize a 79xx or a Kepler?
    Reply
  • Zoomer - Wednesday, March 7, 2012 - link

    I'll take it. Reply
  • mpschan - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link

    I'd tend to agree with your assessment. Only those looking for bleeding edge performance should consider the upgrade to the 7900 series.

    The price/performance curve is a little disappointing, but not unexpected. This is what happens when you:

    a) Move to a new process
    b) Implement a new architecture
    c) (Most importantly) Have no competition

    They need to make their money back on the first two, and having no competition allows them to do that and then some.

    But look at the thermals and power draw. Decreased power usage with a small gain in performance? Where have I seen that before ... oh I know, Intel!

    Welcome to tick-tock folks. They took their process shrink and used it to allow them to draw less power, not tear up the performance charts.

    This means the next generation on 28nm has room to expand. 1280 SP for the 7870 can be 1600 for the 8870. A 212mm2 die can be 300mm2. 190w can be 220w.

    Ultimately the performance of these cards will come down to power drawn. The huge jumps in performance that we used to see existed because of drastically improving fabrication technologies combined with better ways of rendering screens. I think those days will be few and far between now.
    Reply
  • arjuna1 - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link

    You have a point, this generation is not worth spending the $$$ to "sidegrade". I don't kepler doing anything to change that other than forcing AMD to have decent prices. Reply
  • cactusdog - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link

    How is a 7950/7970 a "sidegrade"?? To a 6950/6970? Its a massive performance increase. If you have a highend 6 series GPU you should be looking at highend 7 series. Not midrange. Reply

Log in

Don't have an account? Sign up now