Core-to-Core Latency

As the core count of modern CPUs is growing, we are reaching a time when the time to access each core from a different core is no longer a constant. Even before the advent of heterogeneous SoC designs, processors built on large rings or meshes can have different latencies to access the nearest core compared to the furthest core. This rings true especially in multi-socket server environments.

But modern CPUs, even desktop and consumer CPUs, can have variable access latency to get to another core. For example, in the first generation Threadripper CPUs, we had four chips on the package, each with 8 threads, and each with a different core-to-core latency depending on if it was on-die or off-die. This gets more complex with products like Lakefield, which has two different communication buses depending on which core is talking to which.

If you are a regular reader of AnandTech’s CPU reviews, you will recognize our Core-to-Core latency test. It’s a great way to show exactly how groups of cores are laid out on the silicon. This is a custom in-house test, and we know there are competing tests out there, but we feel ours is the most accurate to how quick an access between two cores can happen.

Looking at core-to-core latencies of the AMD Ryzen 7 8700G, as this is a monolithic Phoenix die, we can see good inter-core latencies between each of the eight individual Zen 4 cores. Going within the core, we can see solid latencies of 7ns, while things inter-core range between 17 and 21ns, showing that the Ryzen 7 8700G uses a single core cluster of eight cores. 

Similar to what we've seen on previous iterations of Zen 4 and Zen 3, albeit on processors with multiple core complex (CCXs) such as the Ryzen 9 7950 and Ryzen 9 5950X, inter-core latencies are strong and low. In contrast, the Ryzen 7 8700G and other Ryzen 8000G monolithic chips on a single die remove the complications and penalties of connecting through AMD's Infinity Fabric interconnect. The Ryzen 7 8700G uses TSMC's refined 4nm manufacturing process, exactly the same as the Ryzen 7040 mobile, which is coincidentally the exact same design as the 8700G, given that AMD has repurposed Phoenix for use on AMD's AM5 desktop platform. 

The core-to-core latency performance is inherently strong on the Ryzen 7 8700G, with low inter-core latencies. As expected, latency degrades a little going across the entire complex, but certainly not within the range where we would expect these penalties to cause latency issues when cores have to communicate with each other.

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  • TesseractOrion - Saturday, February 3, 2024 - link

    Maybe take your meds Maxijazz if you feel so "threatened" LMAO.

    Right trash snowflakes get triggered so easily *sigh*
  • TesseractOrion - Saturday, February 3, 2024 - link

    You do, since it's triggered your usual inane response LOL
  • t.s - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link

    As stated on other review comments, you'll be better served with 7840hs mini-pc. Better priced, better idle, better upper-limit power, almost as good againts 8700G (if there's given headroom).
  • FWhitTrampoline - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link

    There's no Processor upgrade path for the 7840HS as It's BGA and soldered to the MB! And there's 3rd party software for upping the TDP past 65W on the Mobile and Desktop Ryzen APUs!
  • nandnandnand - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link

    You don't need the upgrade path. The path you need to take is just use the thing for a few years and retire it for lighter duty (e.g. HTPC) or give it to a poor kid when you're done.
  • Thunder 57 - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link

    Tell that to everyone who upgraded CPU's on AM4.
  • meacupla - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link

    AM4 had a very long socket life. Long enough that AMD ran out of CPU numbers they could use in EEPROM with a single BIOS.

    AM5's life expectancy remains questionable.
  • meacupla - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link

    8700G costs so much that it is a terrible choice to begin with.
    For the same price, you can get an i3-12100F with RX 6600, and it'll spit out more frames.
  • Thunder 57 - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link

    I wouldn't recommend a 4 core CPU these days.
  • meacupla - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link

    Yes, but if you are budget constrained and think the 8 core 8700G is good value, you would be sorely mistaken.

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