Inside Newegg: They give us a Tour and you a Prize
by Anand Lal Shimpi on February 14, 2006 3:31 PM EST- Posted in
- IT Computing
Shipping and the UPS/FedEx Debate
With the box taped your order is now on the last leg of its trip through Newegg's warehouse as it heads down the final set of rolling conveyers.
The metal crates and employees that you see below are all for Army Post Office and Fleet Post Office (APO/FPO) shipments to the US Military. "Shipping to the US Military is requires extensive paperwork in comparison to our normal shipping operations," says Howard Tong, Vice President of Newegg.com. "Not many companies provide this service but we feel it's worth the extra effort to support our troops and our nation."
With your box packed, labeled and taped up it's off to shipping and it's in Newegg's shipping that most of the recent controversy has been about. Newegg's default shipping is through UPS, although you can pay extra for FedEx. Newegg used to be a FedEx shop by default, however recently FedEx significantly raised their rates, which Newegg passes directly onto their customers. Newegg claims that the rate hike was an attempt by FedEx to discourage customers from shipping via 3-day air, which loses money for FedEx, and instead choose FedEx ground which is profitable.
However FedEx Ground isn't as good as UPS ground, so the end result is frustrated FedEx 3-day air customers that have to pay more, or customers forced out of pricing to go with UPS, which hasn't always had the best track record. In response to complaints about UPS VP Tong says, "We're serious about providing our customers with the best service. We've taken the criticisms about UPS constructively and have greatly improved the situation. However we're always striving for perfection and always welcome further feedback."
With the truck loaded, it's off to your delivery address. As we mentioned at the start of this article, Newegg's goal is to be able to have your shipment to you within 2 days of ordering it regardless of shipping method. It's not a guarantee, but rather an internal goal that they've been striving for ever since their inception.
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bldckstark - Thursday, February 16, 2006 - link
I did not mean to imply that AT was paid for the article, just that it would not be a conflict of interest even had they been.Many, many articles are printed for payment in this world every day. Credibility is lost when the reporting becomes biased, incomplete, or incorrect. Show me how reporting on the most liked and largest computer parts supplier in the U.S. creates bias for a site that tests the parts, not the delivery guy. (I believe that's blewboy.com. Not that I've ever been there. And my screen name is not Wun Hung Guy either.)
Heck, AT doesn't even order most of the parts they test, they are sent by the manufacturers.
You are not being reasonable. Would Anand have retained his credibility if he had coined an article on Coca-Cola's warehousing system? Think about it.
bldckstark - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - link
So why do you care? Creating an article showing the people who buy most of the stuff coming from the largest supplier can only be a good thing. I know when to order from Newegg and when not to. I can type in different addresses to Zipzoomfly (googlegear!) and Mwave to check prices. Why should any of us care if Anand got paid for this, this site is a business too, in case you didn't know. A payoff from Newegg for an article wouldn't be a conflict of interest for AT anyway!Consider the fact that all high volume warehouses are run in a similar fashion and you might realize that the article was fun but worthless as advertisement. Few people out there are going to assume that all other suppliers box their stuff up in torch lit caves. This is more about a process than a company. Every manufacturer I have ever worked for had a similar warehousing system to get parts to the assembly areas.
Now get back on your ZipZoomFly forklift and get my order shipped out that I placed 3 days ago. Whiner.
rubikcube - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - link
Where are all the oompa loompas?Spacecomber - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - link
Skimming through all the positive comments about this article, I'm feeling a bit left out. I seem to be having quite a bit of trouble getting the pictures to pull up on each page. Sometimes they eventually appear, but often I get nothing, even letting the browser window just sit open to the article for several minutes.You guys aren't helping EA host the latest BF2 patch on your image file server are you? ;-)
LoneWolf15 - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - link
To all the guys at Anandtech,I know a lot of our posts on reviews and articles are critical. It may make it seem like a thankless job sometimes (even if we are only offering constructive criticism, it can often seem like a personal attack). So I'm glad to be able to say I really enjoyed this article, from a techie perspective and as someone who has worked in a warehouse long ago and loves to see how far automation has come in distributing products. Documenting the whole thing and including pictures was a great thing.
Thanks for continuing to offer us quality articles, and thanks for additionally giving us the chance to win free stuff. Even when we don't say it, it is truly appreciated. And thank NewEgg for us, for offering themselves up for inspection.
gibbsk - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - link
Thanks Anand for the inside look at NewEgg!! I've always wondered how they got things out so fast, and now I know! :)Seriously, NewEgg is a great retailer and I have shopped with them for years. UPS Ground from CA to my house was taking a week, but now with this new warehouse in TN, hopefully I will get things sooner!
Keep up the good work Anandtech and NewEgg!!!
EODetroit - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - link
Wow, I can remember the day when I thought Newegg was just some Egghead ripoff/spinoff company. Then I kept finding the lowest prices for stuff I wanted at their web site. To top that off, they never screwed up an order of mine, where other companies would screw them up (and still do screw them up) all the time. And then they had the user reviews, which were great before they were censored.I'm an IT tech at a company with < 100 employees, small company. Been here for a number of years now, and people often come to me for computer advice. I can remember many years ago, someone came up to me asking about the new DVD burners back when they just came out. I refered him to the usual review sites, but I also took him to Newegg's web site, and showed him the user reviews. 10s and hundreds of reviews by people that actually bought the burner, and often ripped it to shreds, saying things like "Newegg rocks, they got this to me in 2 days, but this DVD burner sucks, sorry, get XXXX burner instead". We were both really impressed that Newegg would let those reviews stay, and it really helped him get the best burner for his money that he could. I'm sure he ended up ordering it from Newegg too since I put his computer together for him a couple months later.
So anyways, eventually we hired an Intern, and with the extra manpower, stopped buying pre-built computers. Now we get parts from Newegg, and I or the intern put them together. With total control over what goes in our computers, I must say we've had MUCH fewer part failures than what we used to get. That let us not hire more IT staff even though the company has doubled in size, I don't have crap parts failing all the time like I used to any more. Without Newegg being so reliable and inexpensive, it wouldn't have happened.
GJ Anand and Newegg the past 5 years. Hoping for another 5.
huges84 - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - link
Dang the article has been posted on Slashdot. Luckily they didn't mention the contest. But still, I think my chances of winning have been seriously deminished. :(Phiro - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - link
None of the pics show up for me now... Slashdot effect?yacoub - Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - link
The only thing missing is how much discount NewEgg employees get and if they're hiring! ;)Very nice article.