Presler vs. Smithfield - A Brief Look

Other than the larger L2 cache, Presler as incorporated in the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 provides us with two more enhancements over Smithfield: 1066MHz FSB support and a higher clock speed (3.46GHz).

We wanted to isolate the performance improvement due to the larger L2 cache aside from the other improvements to Presler, so we underclocked our sample and its FSB, and compared it to a Pentium D 820 (2.8GHz). 

Looking at a small subset of our tests, we can get a feel for where you can expect the largest performance gains due simply to the increase in L2 cache size.  Remember that since L2 access latency on Smithfield was already at 27 cycles, Presler's cache isn't any slower, so what we end up measuring is how large of an impact a 2MB cache has in some of our benchmarks. 

 Winstone   Business Winstone 2004  Multimedia Content Creation Winstone 2004
Presler 19.0 30.2
Smithfield 18.5 29.9

Under Business Winstone 2004, we see a boost of just under 3%, thanks to the larger cache size.  We have seen the biggest improvements in Winstone, thanks to lower latency caches and higher clock speeds, so it's not too much of a surprise to see a minimal impact here.  Content Creation Winstone 2004 shows no real performance impact either. 

 Media Encoding  3dsmax 7 Composite DVD Shrink WME9 H.264 iTunes
Presler 2.03 9.1m 31.3fps 10.5m 50s
Smithfield 2.05 8.9m 31.0fps 10.5m 50s

Our 3D rendering, video encoding and audio encoding tests basically all agree with the earlier results - the added cache doesn't really improve performance here, but that's to be expected, given the nature of the applications (and the already quite large 1MB L2 cache to which we are comparing). 

 Gaming   Battlefield 2  Call of Duty 2 Quake 4
Presler 77.3 76.2 130.6
Smithfield 73.0 75.6 125.5

It isn't until we look at some of our 3D gaming tests that we start to see some more tangible performance gains.  In games, there are some decent performance improvements to be had, ranging anywhere from 0 to just under 6%, thanks to the larger cache alone. 

Couple the larger cache with a faster FSB and higher clock speed, and the Pentium Extreme Edition 955 is shaping up to be a decent improvement over its predecessor. 

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  • Betwon - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    NO.

    The speed is still very slow for AMD--latency 101ns. Even it is slow than the latency of RAM(5x ns -- 8x ns)

    With so large a latency, we don't find any benefits for those apps which communicate frequently between 2 cores. But it will hurt the performance.

    The best way for core-communication -- share L2 cache. The latency of yonah will be very low, much faster than AthlonX2 and Presler.
  • mlittl3 - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    Not to mention the crossbar switch would not be possible if the dies were separated. Remember AMD did dual-core the right way by bringing the memory controller on die and using the crossbar switch to switch memory communications between the two cores with little latency. If the dies were separated the crossbar switch would have to be moved off die and that would make the whole point of on-die memory controller, well, pointless really.
  • ricardo dawkins - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    S939 AMD chip when these chips are phasing out by M2 and the like or i'm crazy ?
  • Calin - Tuesday, January 3, 2006 - link

    Because you can still find good processors for socket 754. Socket 939 will become the "value" or "mid-range" socket for AMD, and not the premier one (like it is now). New chips will come to socket 939, but the top of the line will be the new M2 - so a new 939 now is a good investment, that should be upgradable in a couple of years
  • Griswold - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    Would you rather recommend presler when the next big thing will yet again bring a new socket?
  • ricardo dawkins - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    Are you dead sure Conroe will need a new socket ?...LGA775 is with us for a few more years..stop spreading FUD. BTW, I'm not a intel fanboy but I read a lot of news.
  • coldpower27 - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    No your correct, there are images of the Conroe processor showing that it pin out is LGA775. I predict most likely we will ditch LGA775 when Intel ditiches NetBurst FSB technology in favor of CSI in 2008.
  • JarredWalton - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    Conroe should be socket 775, but it appears that it will require a new chipset - possibly 965/Broadwater, but it might also be something else. I am almost positive that 945/955 *won't* support the next gen Intel chips, which is too bad.
  • michaelpatrick33 - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    The power draw numbers from other websites are nothing short of frightening for Intel. They have closed the gap with AMD's current X2 4800 but at double the power draw. It is getting ridiculous that a 65nm processor uses more power at idle than a competitor's 90nm draw at full load. Conroe is the true competitor to AMD in 2006 and it will be interesting to see the power numbers for the FX-60 and new AMD socket early next year.
  • Spacecomber - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    I thought that part of the big news coming out in prior reviews of this chip was its overclocking potential. Not that anyone would necessarily buy this processor in order to overclock it, but it was suggestive of what the core was capable of.

    Unless I overlooked it, overclocking wasn't mentioned in this article.

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