No More Shader Replacement

The secret is all in compilation and scheduling. Now that NVIDIA has had more time to work with scheduling and profiling code on an already efficient and powerful architecture, they have an opportunity. This generation, rather than build a compiler to fit hardware, they were able to take what they've learned and build their hardware to better fit a mature compiler already targeted to the architecture. All this leads up to the fact that the 7800 GTX with current drivers does absolutely no shader replacement. This is quite a big deal in light of the fact that, just over a year ago, thousands of shaders were stored in the driver ready for replacement on demand in NV3x and even NV4x. It's quite an asset to have come this far with hardware and software in the relatively short amount of time NVIDIA has spent working with real-time compilation of shader programs.

All these factors come together to mean that the hardware is busy more of the time. And getting more things done faster is what it's all about.

So, NVIDIA is offering a nominal increase in clock speed to 430MHz, just a little more memory bandwidth (256bit memory buss running at a 1.2GHz data rate), 1.33x vertex pipelines, 1.5x pixel pipelines, and various increases in efficiency. These all work together to give us as much as double the performance in extreme cases. If the performance increase can actually be realized, we are looking at a pretty decent speed increase over the 6800 Ultra. Obviously, in the real world we won't be seeing a threefold performance increase in anything but a bad benchmark. In cases where games are CPU limited, we will likely see a much lower increase in performance, but performance double that of the 6800 Ultra is entirely possible in very shader limited games.

In fact, EPIC reports that under certain Unreal Engine 3 tests they currently see two to 2.4x improvements in framerate over the 6800 Ultra. Of course, UE3 is not finished yet and there won't be games out based on the engine for a while. We don't usually like reporting performance numbers from software that hasn't been released, but even if these numbers are higher than we will see in a shipping product, it seems that NVIDIA has at least gotten it right for one developer's technology. We are very interested in seeing how next generation games will perform on this hardware. If we can trust these numbers at all, it looks like the performance advantage will only get better for the GeForce 7800 GTX until Windows Graphics Foundation 2.0 comes along and inspires new techniques beyond SM3.0 capabilities.

Right now, each triangle that gets fed through the vertex pipeline, there are many pixels inside the object that needs her help.

Bringing It All Together

Why didn't NVIDIA build a part with unified shaders?

Every generation, NVIDIA evaluates alternative architectures, but at this time they don't feel that a unified architecture is a good match to the current PC landscape. We will eventually see a unified shader architecture from NVIDIA, but it will not likely be until DirectX itself is focused around a unified shader architecture. At this point, vertex hardware doesn't need to be as complex or intricate as the pixel pipeline. As APIs develop more and more complex functionality it will be advantageous for hardware developers to move towards a more generic and programmable shader unit that can easily adapt to any floating point processing need.

As pixel processing is currently more important than vertex processing, NVIDIA is separating the two in order to focus attention where it is due. Making hardware more generic usually makes it necessarily slower, but explicitly targeting a specific aspect of something can often improve performance a great deal.

When WGF 2.0 comes along and geometry shaders are able to dynamically generate vertex data inside the GPU we will likely see an increased burden on vertex processing as well. Being able to programmatically generate vertex data will help to remove the burden on the system to supply all the model data to the GPU.

Inside The Pipes Transparency AA, Purevideo, and HDTV
Comments Locked

127 Comments

View All Comments

  • Diasper - Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - link

    oops posted before i wrote anything. Some of the results are impressive, others aren't at all. In fact results seem to be all over the board - I suspect drivers are something of the culprit and are to be blamed. Hopefully, as new drivers come out we'll see some performance increases or at least more a uniform distribution of good results
  • Diasper - Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - link

  • Live - Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - link

    Derek get cracking, the graphs are all messed up! And the Transparency AA Performance section could use some info on what game it is tested on and some more comments. I also think that each benchmark warrants some comments for all of us that have a hard time remembering two numbers at the same time. Keep it simple folks….
  • Johnmcl7 - Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - link

    I agree something is wrong with these results, I thought they were odd but when I got to the Enemy Territory ones they seem completely wrong - at 2048x1536 and 4xAA the X850XT is apparently getting 104 fps, while the 6800 Ultra gets 48.3 and the SLI 6800 Ultras are only getting 34.6 fps! Especially bearing in mind it's an OpenGL game.

    John
  • rimshot - Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - link

    This has got to be an error by Anandtech, all other reviews show the 7800GTX in SLI at those same settings hammering the 6800Ultra in SLI.
  • Lonyo - Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - link

    The benchmarks are all a load of crap it seems.
    Check the Wolfenstein benchmarks.
    The X850XT goes from 74fps @ 1600x1200 w/4xAA to 103fps @ 2048x1536 w/4xAA
    A 33% increase when the res gets turned up. Good one.

    There also seem to be many other similar things which look like errors, but they could just be crappy nVidia drivers, or something wrong with SLI profiles.

    Who knows, but there's definately a lot of things which look VERY odd/suspicious here.
  • Dukemaster - Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - link

    My Iiyama VMP 454 does 2048 no prob so i'm game :p
  • vanish - Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - link

    oh and in several of the benchmarks, the 6800U SLI more than doubles the performance over the single 6800U. Is that normal? I thought SLI gains were generally about 45% or so.
  • rimshot - Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - link

    Is it just me or is it a little strange that the 6800Ultra SLI outperforms the 7800GTX SLI at 1600x1200 with 4xAA in every benchmark ???
  • PrinceXizor - Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - link

    No comment on the fact that in virtually every game it LOSES to the 6800 SLI at 1600x1200 at 4XAA.

    All other scores look very impressive. But, in this particualar group of settings, the 6800 SLI eats it for lunch.

    P-X

Log in

Don't have an account? Sign up now