Huawei: Building its Ecosystem

From the 30000ft view, I’m a fan of notebooks that promise good power and battery life at the expense of graphics. As a journalist, when I’m on the move I need something that’s going to be easy to carry, easy to work on, and has enough juice to last me through the day. Naturally, some might think that I should pivot to one of the Snapdragon or Chromebook devices, but alas I have some software in my daily toolset that doesn’t work on either, so until then, I’m still focused on devices built with AMD or Intel.

With that brief, the MateBook 16 on paper fits the bill. It’s a 16-inch device that shuns discrete graphics in favor of a larger battery, lighter unit, and slimmer design. The IPS display is an odd resolution (2520x1680), but the 3:2 aspect ratio is appreciated for the sort of text-heavy writing and research I tend to do. It has Type-C and Type-A ports, a full-sized HDMI port, a large smooth trackpad, and an off-center power button with an excellent fingerprint sensor inside. So it’s a shame that the pop-up camera makes for nasal meetings. Overall, at 2 kg, it isn’t the lightest in its segment (the LG Gram 17 is 1.5kg), but it is half the price, and comes with a 45W-class processor.

When the CPU Isn’t What You Think It Is

So here’s where we get into some of the discussions around performance. The Ryzen 7 5800H is a good choice for this class of device: eight Zen 3 cores at high frequency with Vega 8 graphics. While the graphics aren’t great for regular 16-inch devices that often have discrete graphics, the CPU has grunt. However, the Ryzen 7 5800H is a 45W-class processor, and so reading a specification sheet you would expect that level of performance. Huawei runs the processor at 35W instead, which is well within the spec for this part, however nowhere on the box does it say as much. There are tradeoffs with the lower power setting, such as slightly reduced performance in exchange for some battery life, but also less dependency on cooling and a lighter chassis. Huawei does offer a performance mode, when the charger is plugged in, however this just means the 35W mode is infinite, whereas in regular mode (unplugged or plugged in) may only stay at 35W for a limited time based on temperature/efficiency.


Performance was 6% quicker to complete over 20 minutes

So if you were to buy this laptop, or any laptop for that matter, should you expect the processor to run at the power given by the processor manufacturer? Almost every laptop processor is offered to the laptop manufacturer with a configurable power option, allowing them to optimize for the chassis design. If it is adjusted from the CPU default, then should the customer know about it? As of right now, and every OEM is guilty of this, no laptop ever mentions when the CPU is configured for the chassis at a lower specification point than the default.

This drives me somewhat insane, as someone who likes to know exactly what performance I’m getting from a device. Now it might seem a bit oblique to talk about this specifically during one particular review, but it’s an endemic problem across all laptop manufacturers. It wouldn’t take much to say ‘Device X (35W)’ in the specification page. Unfortunately sometimes the people writing those specification pages for retail or for websites aren’t connected to the engineers tuning the device at all. So we’re left with automatically assuming the processor manufacturer specifications, which in this case, isn’t correct.

The plus side, I guess, is that laptops should be reviewed to know their real performance!

Huawei MateBook 16

The goal of the MateBook 16 seems to be that it offers one tool for anyone investing in Huawei’s ecosystem, combining laptop, smartphone, tablet, or anything else. Using features like the Huawei Share was actually quite easy, to move files, or to extend a workspace. If I already take a laptop and a 13-inch Type-C wired display with me when I go on a work trip, then migrating that display with a wireless connection, as well as doubling it up as a standalone tablet, isn’t so much of a leap. However, when it comes to display sharing or extending, input lag will be a thing for anyone looking to do some gaming.

That being said, the 16-inch size of the unit isn’t ideal when faced with modern-day economy travel. Even as small as I am at 5’5, pulling a 13-inch laptop in an economy seat is sometimes fraught with issues (especially as the person in front leans back and catches your screen, cracking it), let alone using a 16-inch. To get the best in that light, you need to be on a bulkhead seat, or be in a business-class seat.

Therein lies a bit of a dilemma. I would imagine someone using a business class seat that was paid for would have access to $2000-$3000 for a work device. The Ryzen 7 5800H in this review is 1199 Euro or £1000 GBP (USD$1150 pre-tax), which marks it more as an entry-business notebook. As a business device, where graphics aren’t needed and you’re happy with the size, then the MateBook 16 works well with its strong display, CPU, and reasonable battery life, but the DRAM/storage might be limiting. At 16 GB / 512 GB, this does teeter on the barely acceptable limits. But this all combines into that lower cost.

For comparison, at Dell the similar device is the Inspiron 16. Around the same price, it offers the Intel Core i7-11800H, a 16:10 slightly higher resolution screen, same DRAM/storage, similar battery, TB4, full keyboard, but is also slightly thicker for the same weight, and doesn’t have dual front-facing speakers. Lenovo’s IdeaPad Creator 5 16 has the Ryzen 5 5600H, 1600p display, same DRAM/Storage, comes with a GTX1650, and a slightly smaller battery, at around 10% higher cost. This market is bigger than you might think, with most of the major players having at least one offering around this price, and the minutiae come down to exact features vs favoring one brand over another.

Overall, it isn’t the device for the person that I am – it’s just a bit too physically big, and ultimately I can feel the difference between lugging a 2 kg device around a trade show compared to a 1.5 kg device. But for those that it fits, the building blocks are there for a very easy-to-use ecosystem. I wait for a version where Huawei ditches that camera though.

Coupling with Huawei Share: Laptop to Tablet, to Monitor, to Phone
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  • Alistair - Monday, October 25, 2021 - link

    kind of funny, the Chinese government is acting criminally, and you just scream racism if it is criticized, you know China is a country right? a government? not a race
  • shabby - Thursday, October 21, 2021 - link

    Blame Canada!
  • fishingbait15 - Friday, October 22, 2021 - link

    Sure, what Canada and the US did in the 1800s is comparable to what China (and Cuba, Viet Nam, North Korea, Venezuela) are doing today. Makes a ton of sense.
  • Alistair - Friday, October 22, 2021 - link

    Western Canada is the size of all of Europe. In fact just BC is larger than France and Germany combined. There were only a few thousand first nations people in all of BC (in the stone age, without the wheel) and they were all treated well and given their own reserves. Nobody fought wars or attacked them. You can't connect one aborigial exerience thousands of kilometres away with Canada. Canada has been free from war for 200 years, longer than any other country.
  • Oxford Guy - Sunday, October 24, 2021 - link

    Canada, interestingly, gets a free pass for its deportations. For instance, a man risked his life greatly, coming through Greenland and the Canadian arctic — only to be promptly bundled back to his home country.

    Is this happens in the US, it apparently involves heartlessness and other psychological failures.
  • sonny73n - Thursday, October 21, 2021 - link

    @alistair
    Go to hell with your politics bs. Your country isn't at war with China. So the only reason you hate China so much is because you're a god damn racist. Huawei products are available in the US. You can support the real evil Google, Apple or FB. I don't care. The only thing I mind is your snake tongue. You're doing evil but saying others do. You gotta be a wolf in sheep clothing.

    And if those two Canadians aren't real spies, why did the Canadian spy agency welcomed them back? Check the tweet for yourself.
  • sonny73n - Thursday, October 21, 2021 - link

    ***Huawei products are NOT even available in the US
  • Alistair - Thursday, October 21, 2021 - link

    You are Exhibit A for why no one should buy Huawei products. Corrupt company. Got the Chinese government to abduct innocent people.
  • DominionSeraph - Friday, October 22, 2021 - link

    You realize it was in response to Canada abducting an innocent Chinese woman first, right? And not even for your own racist agenda, you were willing racists by proxy for the US.
  • Alistair - Friday, October 22, 2021 - link

    People who call others racist are usually the most racist, and that would you be you. Canada abducted no one. She was charged with an actual crime, unlike the Canadians. She was given trial, was living in her 5 million dollar mansion. Educate yourself.

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