Value RAM Roundup: Computing On a Budget
by Wesley Fink on April 11, 2005 4:26 PM EST- Posted in
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"And the winner is..." really depends on how you plan to use your Value RAM. Some buyers ask nothing more than that their memory run at stock DDR400 speed as specified. If that buyer is you, then any of the seven memories that we tested here will meet your needs. All 7 of them ran at their specification or better without any problems at all. We would suggest that the CAS 2.5 memories are a bit faster and cost about the same as the Cas 3 we tested. Great choices here are the Kingston KVR400X64C3AK2/1G and the Transcend JM366D643A-50. 1 Gigabyte of either memory costs about $100 and they are sometimes on sale for even less. The Transcend is rated at CAS 2.5. The Kingston KVR400X64C3AK2/1G is rated at CAS 3, but we had no problem at all running the Kingston at CAS 2.5 at DDR400.The Kingston and Transcend stop at DDR450, and if your budget can stretch $21 to $121 for a Gigabyte of memory, the excellent OCZ PC3200 Premier will give you CAS 2.5 performance all the way up to around DDR480. This will cover the highest 1:1 overclock that you are likely to achieve with air cooling on any AMD Athlon 64 CPU. If your budget can stretch to around $195, you can buy famous Winbond BH5 again in OCZ PC3200 Gold. This will give you the absolute fastest 2-2-2 timings at DDR400 at default voltage - and a whole lot more if you want to overclock now or in the future. 2-2-2 timings are definitely faster, but we would choose a faster CPU over the faster RAM, if that is what the $95 represents in your budget, and you don't plan to overclock.
If you have any overclocking plans at all, exclude the other Kingston memory, Kingston KVR400X64C25/512, and Mushkin EM. They both had trouble even reaching a CPU clock of 205 on our test platform. There are much better choices for overclocking in this roundup. This may be a compatibility issue of these memory chips with the AMD on-chip memory controller or the DFI motherboard, but whatever the reason, they don't clock even modestly on our test bed. There are other choices available from both Kingston and Mushkin, and almost any choice will likely do better at overclocking than these two.
Last, we get to the Mad Overclockers category, or maybe the mad overclocker wannabes. There is an old southern saying that you can't make a sow's ear into a silk purse - another way to say, you can't get something for nothing. Two memories in this roundup challenge that old sage - OCZ PC3200 Gold or "Value BH5" and OCZ PC3200 Value Series or "Value VX". If you can supply the voltage, then these two memories will reward you with 2-2-2 performance all the way from DDR490 to DDR510. Considering that the king of 2-2-2, OCZ PC4000 VX, sells for about $270, these 2 memories are true bargains at $115 for Value VX or $195 for Value BH5. They will neither likely reach quite as far as 4000 VX, but they will come close. VX itself is still a great value at $270 when you compare its performance to other memories in the $250 to $400 price range.
You will need memory voltage up to 3.5 volts or so to reach these performance levels with VX or BH5, but the memory itself is cheap "sow's ear" pricing. Some overclockers get their greatest thrills out of pushing cheap parts to unheard of performance levels. That is why the Intel P4 2.4GHz Northwood became legend. These two memories fit that category. You will need an OCZ DDR Booster to supply the voltages on some motherboards, a voltage mod on others, or a new DFI nForce4 if you want up to 4.0V out of the box. But if you supply the voltage, these two memories will provide legendary performance.
The winner depends on your needs. Frankly, the Value VX deserves a Gold Award from someone simply for the incredible performance at chicken feed prices. The BH5 revival is similarly worthy. The OCZ Premier reaches DDR480 at CAS 2.5 and costs just $121, and the pair of $100 CAS 2.5's are a stellar value. There are quite a few winners in this roundup - the winner for you depends on how you plan to use your Value RAM. We hope that we provided enough information on each of these memories to make your choice for best Value RAM an easier decision.
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CanadianDoc - Sunday, April 17, 2005 - link
1 GB (2 x 512 MB) of Crucial Ballistix PC 3200 now lists for $192 U.S. at crucial.com.On any mobo, it runs at 200 MHz (DDR 400) at 2-2-2-6 timings at 2.8 V, outperforming any other RAM in this review.
As shown by AnandTech (www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2386), on a DFI nF4 mobo, it overclocks to 280 MHz (DDR 560) at 2.5-3-3-6 timings at only 2.9 V, where it closely matches the top performance of any RAM available at any price, bar none. IMHO, this is real value.
Adding a Venice 3200+ overclocked to 10 x 280 MHz = 2.80 GHz (www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-venice.html), a Thermalright XP-90 heatsink with a SilenX 92mm 14dBA fan, a Seagate 7200.8 SATA NCQ hard drive, and a Gigabyte X800 XL video card with SilentPipe cooling (GV-RX80L256V), in an Antec Performance One (P160) case (www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=2346) with an XG Magnum 500W heatpipe PSU (available later this month, according to www.xgbox.com), you have the makings of an ultra-quiet gaming rig with near state-of-the-art performance at a great bang-for-the-buck price.
ozzimark - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
you can. i'm a big advocate of crucial ballistixspeaking of that company, why were they missing from the testing too?
BaronVonAwesome - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
195 seems a bit steep for value RAM. I'd like to point out that you can get Ballistix from Crucial for less than 210 I believe.Den - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
Thanks for pointing out that the part numbers are on page two. As many others have said, it would have been really nice to see the best the different rams would do at 2.9v in addition to what they would do with DFI voltage. Also it would have been nice to see a greater range of memory tested but I understand you are limited by not being able to afford to buy and test what you want. Beggars can't be choosy. Thanks for doing this though, the general concept was good and there was some interesting information.NXIL - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
Paying $100 to buy some Corsair Valueram (Newegg--had an $88 special yesterday) would have been the fair and reasonable course of action.Consumer Reports has been testing products fairly for decades--they don't accept advertising, and, they buy the cars, electronics, and other items they test anonymously. Of note is that "Sharper Image" has sued them recently (SI lost) when they tested one of their bogus "air purifiers"--seems to make the air less clean, actually, by releasing ozone.
Anandtech should get some Corsair RAM and test it--and, they should buy samples of the other brands tested, and compare the "off the street" samples with the ones provided by the manufacturers. Unless I am mistaken, video card makers were found to be rigging their drivers to test better with certain benchmarks. It would not be too surprising to find that memory manufacturers had taken some of their special high cost "binned" chips and sent them out with a "value" label on them.
MadAd - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - link
Oh dear ... I left this review for 2 days till I had time to read it properly, I'm sorry to say I wish I had not bothered.1) Should have been titled value ram from non value companies. Wheres the real value ram?
Since the price began to drop we seem to be up to our ears in stuff ive never heard of purporting to be cas3@3200 - Stupid me for thinking that thats what a value roundup should include, noname oem kit, not some hand selected bunch of good-but-value-priced ram from the majors.
2) Why is the following question being avoided and ignored? Namely why wasnt any corsair memory got from another source and included in the test?
A reader posted some assumptions however further to that it could be i) they use pretty much the same chips all over and dont want to give the game away that the extra $100 doesnt get you much increase and ii) anandtech dont want to bite the hand that feeds so bowed down to the request rather than doing whats right and finding the truth come hell or high water.
Im not usually this negative but I do feel quite let down, sorry.
classy - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - link
I think a lot of folks are missing it. I think some people need to look at this way. You would have upgrade your cpu 1-2 speed grades to equal the performance increase that using the VX or BH5 memory would bring. Even at stock speeds. Now yes you need more voltage, but DFI I believe produces the best A64 borads as well as the best athlon XP board, Ultra B, which all are capable of supplying the necessary voltage. You can also use the ddr booster on some boards. Its a great alternative to increase system performance without spending a lot of money. And this is memory that you can grow with for at least a couple of years. I believe AMD said it won't go DDR2 until 2007. Great article, good stuff, and nice to see other ways to bring a performance increase. Nice job Wesleyunclebud - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - link
84 comments in 2 days!!! haven't seen that in a while...thanks for the article! good reading as usual
XRaider - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - link
The cheap OCZ is faster then the Plat. Rev2 !!! Ain't dat a Bitch!!! >:-(WTF is up with OCZ. shooot.
srstudios - Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - link
Wesley, I hate to be a nag, but now you have both the OCZ PC3200 Gold, and the OCZ PC3200 Premier with the same model number. PC3200 Gold P/NOCZ4001024ELDCGE-Kis correct.
The Premier should be PN- OCZ4001024PDC-K, at least I think that's the correct part. http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_d...
I have a gig of the 'old' BH-5, Mushkin Black L2 PC3500, do you think they would play nice with this new value BH-5? I don't think I would combine them, just wonder if you guys have any thoughts about it.