The Newcomers

As we briefly mentioned, there are three new products to talk about today – the Radeon 9800 XT, the Radeon 9600 XT and then NVIDIA’s NV38.

The XT line of Radeon 9x00 cards is specifically targeted at the very high end of the gaming market. With AMD and their Athlon 64 FX, Intel and the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition, it’s not too surprising to see even more companies going this direction. With an ultra-premium part like the Radeon 9800 XT the profit margins are high and more importantly, the PR opportunities are huge – claiming the title of world’s fastest desktop GPU never hurts.

The effort required to produce a part like the Radeon 9800 XT is much lower than a serious redesign. When making any kind of chip (CPU, GPU, chipset, etc…) the design team is usually given a cutoff point where they cannot make any more changes to the design, and that is the design that will go into production. However, it is very rare that manufacturers get things right on the first try. Process improvements and optimizing of critical paths within a microprocessor are both time intensive tasks that require a good deal of experience.

Once ATI’s engineers had more experience with the R350 core and more time with it they began to see where the limitations of the GPU’s clock speed existed; remember that your processor can only run as fast as its slowest speed path so it makes a great deal of sense to change the layout and optimize the use of transistors, etc… to speed up the slow paths within your GPU. This oversimplified process is what ATI and their foundry engineers have been working on and the results are encompassed in the R360 – the core of the Radeon 9800 XT.

The Radeon 9800 XT is able to run at a slightly higher core frequency of 412MHz, quite impressive for ATI’s 0.15-micron chip (yes, this is the same process that the original R300 was based on). Keep in mind that the Radeon 9800 Pro ran at 380MHz and you’ll see that this 8% increase in clock speed is beginning to reach the limits of what ATI can do at 0.15-micron.

The Radeon 9800 XT does receive a boost in memory speed as well, now boasting a 365MHz DDR memory clock (730MHz effective) – an increase of 7% over the original Radeon 9800 Pro and an increase of 4% over the 256MB 9800 Pro. ATI was much more proud of their core clock improvements as we will begin to crave faster GPU speeds once more shader intensive games come out.

The Radeon 9800 XT does have a thermal diode (mounted on-package but not on-die) that has a driver interface that will allow the card to automatically increase its core speed if the thermal conditions are suitable. The GPU will never drop below its advertised 412MHz clock speed, but it can reach speeds of up to 440MHz as far as we know. The important thing to note here is that ATI fully warrantees this overclocking support, an interesting move indeed. Obviously they only guarantee the overclock when it is performed automatically in the drivers, as they do not rate the chips for running at the overclocked speed in all conditions.

The OverDrive feature, as ATI likes to call it, will be enabled through the Catalyst 3.8 drivers and we’ll be sure to look into its functionality once the final drivers are made available.

The Radeon 9800 XT will be available in the next month or so and it will be sold in 256MB configurations at a price of $499 – most likely taking the place of the Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB.

Index The Radeon 9600XT & NV38
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  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link


    Cheatonators are NOT USING True Trilinear filtering in EVERY DX game.

    WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    who cares about Nvidia anymore.....
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    Why not stating if these games are rather OpenGL, DirectX 8 or DirectX 9 Games...
    Looks Like Nvidia is ahead in OpenGl games (Homeworld 2 and Never Winter Nights for example). And ATI in Direct X Games...
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    WOW, look at all those DX9 benchmarks!!!!!!

    LOL

    He is using drivers that are NOT available to the public(51.75), there are no IQ test(yet) and he has already come to a conclusion.

    Bye bye Anand you are over for me!!!!
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    Cheatonators 5x.xx are used in this review!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    REDICOULOUS as ANAnD
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    ANAND + NVIDIA = this review of shit.PERIOD
  • ianmills - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    I've lost my faith in you as an impartial reviewer.

    The idea to do all tests at 1024x768 was just PLAIN STUPID.
    The difference between the cards is way higher at higher resolutions... The results are much different at the other sites
    Reading this interview one could conclude that the 9800xt is only 20-30% faster than the 9600pro
    This is crap Anandtech. Either shape up or you've lost another reader.
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    I would Like To see widely played Driving games like Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2,4X4 Evo 2
    not that driving Anadtech Put in.I Request Anadtech to atleast include Need for speed Hot Pursuit 2.
  • Jeff7181 - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    #121...

    Quake 3 is used because it's CPU limited, not limited by video cards... so if a new CPU can run the game faster, that's an indiciation of it's performance... new games like HL2 and Doom3 tend to be more video card dependant than CPU dependant.
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    lock on:modern air combat
    call of duty
    NASCAR Thunder 2004
    Need for speed:HP

  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, October 1, 2003 - link

    I think it is becoming clear that ATI cards are superior in DX9 games, and are the way to go. Sad for us Geforce owners. Hopefully though, Nvidia will address this and come to market with their next gen cards (not this new batch...the next) having a lot better DX9 performance--for the entire DX9 spec.

    If I were buying a card now, it'd be an ATI....but I don't think Nvidia is going to sit still, their new cards will be competitive.

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