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Calling back to Computex, ASUS first announced a new Transformer device based on ‘Intel’s Next Generation’ processor. We knew it was Kaby Lake, but given the launch cycle for KBL it was understandable that the device was still a couple of months out and a work in process. At that point of the game the hardware specifications are typically squared away, and final touches are being made to the design ID as well as strong work on the software platform and ramping up the manufacturing aspect. We expect ASUS to launch their new Transformer products in due course.

At Intel’s pre-briefing for Kaby Lake, several systems were on display from HP all using the new processors. Specifications were not discussed, however devices with 4K panels and a variety of sizes were shown, including what looked like an upgraded Spectre, as well as a notebook with an OLED display.

This week is the annual IFA trade show in Berlin, which focuses on complete consumer electronics rather than components, as well as home appliances, IoT, and other things in-between. We have presentations and press events for a wide variety of companies including Acer, Samsung, Lenovo, Huawei, ZTE, and Sony, all of whom could be announcing something around Kaby Lake. (Qualcomm and AMD are also presenting at the show, but something tells me it isn’t to do with KBL.)

Explaining Why There’s No Desktop Parts Today

For the majority of enthusiasts, PC builders and gamers, questions about the time frame of the desktop processor launches, the benefits they bring and the pricing are swirling around the zeitgeist. Intel has confirmed with today’s launch that a wider array of Kaby Lake parts will be launched in January, including Iris graphics enabled processors, desktop parts, enterprise parts and workstation SKUs (vPro and Xeons, one would assume).

Despite the fact that this is still 14nm, one could assume that 14nm+ was focused on the small die parts first to improve yield before the larger desktop parts were produced, depending on how difficult the shift from 14 to 14+ actually was. There’s also the consideration about Intel’s product lines: Skylake on the desktop was only launched 12 months ago, and the next generation 10nm Intel product is - admittedly looking into a very foggy crystal ball - over a year away and will be mobile focused again as smaller dies are easier to make. Intel has to sufficiently space out its product stacks to ensure maximum profit, appease shareholders, but also give their customers a regular, expected update cycle. There’s a reason we don’t see the best product Intel could ever make on day one at unlimited expense.

Given that Intel has said that KBL is a similar IPC to SKL, it might be a bit worrying if desktop performance of the new parts is identical to the old ones, merely bumped up in frequency. Typically a small frequency bump mirrors a basic overclock; importantly however, if the pitch has been widened to allow a higher frequency, this could have a beneficial knock on effect for overclocking. Despite marketing efforts, Intel still limits overclocking to the two high-end SKUs, so how well Kaby Lake overclocks could prove important with desktop enthusiasts. If it overclocks better than Skylake, then we might be looking at the Skylake equivalent of the Haswell Refresh/Devil's Canyon. However if KBL offers the same OC frequency as SKL, and the same performance due to a similar IPC, then enthusiasts might not be interested. Ultimately Intel is going to market the new chips as a 3-5 year upgrade option for users still on Nehalem, Westmere and Sandy Bridge. This is ultimately where Intel believes most of the upgrade sales are coming from, rather than users jumping from Skylake.

The other factor is the motherboard side of the equation. We know that Kaby Lake on the desktop is to be accompanied by a new chipset launch as well, the 200-series, and typically if we were expecting a September launch then we would have seen motherboard examples at Computex. At the show, only MSI had an ‘unlabeled 200-series’ motherboard on show, which looked pretty identical to a Z170 product already on sale barring the design ID. We don’t yet know the benefits of the 200-series chipset over the 100-series line, and a release date in January would mean that motherboard manufacturers should now be in the final design steps for their major SKUs.

Saying ‘January’ as a launch date is quite vague. But, January has the annual CES event in Las Vegas during the first week after New Year, which is a common time to launch new CPUs after the holiday season finishes and people are ‘rested’.

Finally, it’s also worth noting that AMD is planning to enable widespread availability for their new Zen set of CPUs in Q1. So a January launch for desktop Kaby Lake could provide a more contested one for Intel. (If they also launch at CES, I need to start bulk ordering caffeine drips today. Goodbye sleep, it was nice knowing you. I may not be seen the rest of January.)

After all that, I’m pretty sure it’s pronounced Kay-bee Lake.

Updated 14nm, Speed Shift v2, Performance Updates Appendix: Kaby Lake Briefing Slides
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  • Gunbuster - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    Once again Intel has a good $300 low power CPU for $250 devices. I wonder if they will still be perplexed by why these are not flying off the shelves from OEM orders.
  • fanofanand - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    Well said. I picked up a tablet for my son a couple of months ago, it will do 95% of what a $600 tablet can do at 80% of the performance for $120. Intel is completely misunderstanding the market and it's direction.
  • lilmoe - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    No they're not "misunderstanding"... There's just no competition, and ARM tablets have lost steam, so why NOT?
  • BrokenCrayons - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    ARM tablet sales are slipping, but I think their slowing sales are an indicator of an overall tepid market for the tablet form factor which includes x86 devices. Releasing a high cost CPU into that market will not net Intel many sales. Maybe the company isn't concerned about that and maybe they're seeking higher margins in a small market, but it does superficially look like the MSRP is unrealistic.
  • fanofanand - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    Swinging from contra-revenue schemes to top-tier premium pricing seems overly optimistic on Intel's part.
  • Meteor2 - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link

    It's for $900 devices, like the Surface Pro.
  • Gunbuster - Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - link

    You missed the point. Instead of offering a sane range of prices and performance levels in their Core and i product line that fill out all the WHOLE range of market needs they insist on keeping the atom around.

    They could have the low power versions in low end devices and impress customers with performance. Instead people get a $100 to $270 device with a just passable Atom and it tarnishes the whole Wintel industry's image.

    Atom $30, Core $300. Derp Derp Derp
  • fera79 - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    Kaby Lake was supposed to add native USB 3.1 Generation 2 (10 Gbit/s) support, but the first CPUs did show no such feature. What about the other chips that are coming out in January?
  • retrospooty - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    Wouldn't that be dependant on the chipset ? I am not sure if upcoming 200 series chipsets that will accompany Kaby Lake will support it or not, but it wouldn't be part of the CPU spec.
  • karma77police - Tuesday, August 30, 2016 - link

    This must be 2nd most boring release from Intel after Skylake release of course. All i care is about 10 core Broadwell-E i am running and future CPU in that area.

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