Miscellaneous Aspects and Concluding Remarks

Prior to proceeding to the business end of the review, it is time to take a look at some of the bundled features of the Seagate Innov8. The drive comes with an installer for Seagate Dashboard - an optional management application. The installer can also process the online registration for the unit. The Dashboard program allows users to configure backups, process them, and also restore data from the backups. Select cloud services (Dropbox, Google Drive and OneDrive) are also available as backup targets.

The Dashboard can also be used to configure the Innov8 - processing drive tests, controlling the LEDs, configuring drive spin-down intervals etc.

The Seagate Innov8 includes 200GB of Microsoft OneDrive cloud storage for two years and Lyve software compatibility for multimedia management and access from any device or location. Seagate's MSRP for the Innov8 is $349. However, we currently see the unit back-ordered at most e-tailers, with availability slated for the first week of June. The pre-order price is also higher than the MSRP mentioned in Seagate's launch PR, with the current Amazon street price being $390.

The combination of power from the in-built battery and the bus power from most Type-C ports should make the Seagate Innov8 compatible with most modern platforms. Ignition Boost seems to be a clever way to tackle the start-up power requirements of hard drives in bus-powered enclosures. However, the longevity of the battery is a bit of a concern, and Seagate provides no concrete numbers except for the 2-year warranty. Another concern is that some Type-C ports actually do not follow the full Type-C specifications - so, if they mistakenly advertise 7.5W, but only support the default power profile (4.5W), it is a hit-or-miss situation when it comes to being able to use the Innov8 with that port. [ Update (Comments from Seagate): Ignition Boost only uses 1% of the battery each time to spin up the drive, and is not used once the drive is actually operating. This should give a much longer lifetime to the internal battery, compared to other mobile devices embedding a battery that we use on a daily basis, like laptop or mobile phones. Also, given that Type-C Power Delivery specifications have the potential to offer up to 100W, we can imagine that in the Future, Innov8 will be less dependent on the battery for spinning up. ]

We are not big fans of shingled magnetic recording (SMR), the technology used in the Archive HDD. The performance is not very predictable, and there is noticeable degradation - particularly for large amounts of data within a small time window, and, for data that is read back within a short time after writing. Despite these limitations, I do agree with Seagate that there are use-cases where this is not a concern at all. For example, continuous back-up of data that only changes by small amounts at a time, and storage of data for archival purposes are not affected. In any case, the firmware on the Archive HDD present in the Innov8 is much more suited for consumer use-cases when compared to what shipped with the original Archvie HDDs last year. As long as SMR can deliver a significant bump in capacity while keeping costs low, I think the technology is worth pursuing.

On the whole, the Seagate Innov8 is a very interesting product from an engineering perspective. We would have liked this to be a modular product with user-replaceable hard drives and batteries. Given that helium drives are also making its way into the consumer market and have excellent power profiles, we are quite sure that SMR-based Archive HDDs are not going to be the only option for this class of products. The Seagate Innov8 does minimize cable clutter in a desktop environment, and many consumers might appreciate that. The industrial design also seems to target the typical LaCie market. We believe that the Innov8 should be marketed under the LaCie brand.

The Seagate Backup Plus 8TB (based on the same HDD, and with the same 200GB OneDrive cloud storage offer) currently sells for $230, while the Innov8 is around $390 on Amazon right now. The WD 8TB My Book external hard drive is priced at $250 and comes with a helium drive that provides more predictable performance, though it doesn't have any cloud storage offers associated with it. Is the significant price premium (more than $150) for the Innov8 worth it for the reduction in cable clutter, a battery inside the unit, aluminum chassis and a more pleasing industrial design? That is for the consumer to decide.

Performance Consistency, Power and Thermal Characteristics
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  • Michael Bay - Friday, May 20, 2016 - link

    Any projections when external hard drives will hit 16Tb? I`m using Seagate`s 8Tb now, and animoo fills it up rather fast.
  • JimmiG - Friday, May 20, 2016 - link

    Probably going to take a long time. In order to hit 8 - 10 TB, "hacks" like SMR or helium-filled drives were necessary. The write heads just can't get any smaller now. HAMR might unlock 16+ TB drives, if they ever manage to get it to the market at a reasonable cost.
  • Michael Bay - Friday, May 20, 2016 - link

    Okay, so another 8Tb external for me, then.
  • coder111 - Friday, May 20, 2016 - link

    Ok, so what about CPU usage?

    Drives connected via SATA have DMA, so they can bypass CPU for data copy and leave CPU free to do other stuff.

    As far as I know, USB is incapable of doing DMA (security considerations is one reason for it, look up DMA attack). So any USB storage should have considerably higher CPU usage under heavy IO compared to SATA or SAS or ATA storage.
  • phoenix_rizzen - Friday, May 20, 2016 - link

    I forget the name of it, but there's a USB storage mode specifically for this, that basically lets you stream data to the drive without sending each block through the CPU first. Supported in Windows 8 and above by default, I believe, with special drivers needed for Windows 7. Not sure about non-Windows support.

    Anandtech did a review of one of the earlier USB thumb drives that supported this showing the results of using bulk transfers over normal USB transfers. And I believe the newer external drives use something similar (SCSI-over-USB or something like that) to the same effect.
  • lagittaja - Saturday, May 21, 2016 - link

    Well there's the "turbo mode" that increases the max transaction size for bulk-only transfer from 64K up to 2MB.
    And then there's UASP (or UAS) which is USB Attached SCSI.
  • extide - Monday, May 23, 2016 - link

    Yeah there are those modes but they are still not DMA. USB does not do DMA. You can with Thunderbolt, though.
  • extide - Monday, May 23, 2016 - link

    Wow, seriously only 16MB of cache on this thing? Hopefully crystaldiskinfo is wrong here. I would think that for an SMR drive you would need lots of cache to make the performance decent. I wonder if maybe it has additional DRAM for smoothing out the writes a bit. You know some NAND would be great with one of these, have them do like 32-64GB of NAND plus an SMR drive, that could be pretty potent really. DOO ITTT
  • humanentity - Tuesday, June 7, 2016 - link

    Smr is trash.
  • Mikuni - Sunday, June 12, 2016 - link

    "$230" drive = $300 in Europe.

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