CPU Tests: Simulation

Simulation and Science have a lot of overlap in the benchmarking world, however for this distinction we’re separating into two segments mostly based on the utility of the resulting data. The benchmarks that fall under Science have a distinct use for the data they output – in our Simulation section, these act more like synthetics but at some level are still trying to simulate a given environment.

DigiCortex v1.35: link

DigiCortex is a pet project for the visualization of neuron and synapse activity in the brain. The software comes with a variety of benchmark modes, and we take the small benchmark which runs a 32k neuron/1.8B synapse simulation, similar to a small slug.

The results on the output are given as a fraction of whether the system can simulate in real-time, so anything above a value of one is suitable for real-time work. The benchmark offers a 'no firing synapse' mode, which in essence detects DRAM and bus speed, however we take the firing mode which adds CPU work with every firing.

The software originally shipped with a benchmark that recorded the first few cycles and output a result. So while fast multi-threaded processors this made the benchmark last less than a few seconds, slow dual-core processors could be running for almost an hour. There is also the issue of DigiCortex starting with a base neuron/synapse map in ‘off mode’, giving a high result in the first few cycles as none of the nodes are currently active. We found that the performance settles down into a steady state after a while (when the model is actively in use), so we asked the author to allow for a ‘warm-up’ phase and for the benchmark to be the average over a second sample time.

For our test, we give the benchmark 20000 cycles to warm up and then take the data over the next 10000 cycles seconds for the test – on a modern processor this takes 30 seconds and 150 seconds respectively. This is then repeated a minimum of 10 times, with the first three results rejected. Results are shown as a multiple of real-time calculation.

(3-1) DigiCortex 1.35 (32k Neuron, 1.8B Synapse)

Normally DigiCortex likes memory bandwidth, but most of the TR Pro CPUs wilted in this test. The only mode that did not is the 3995WX in 64C/64T mode, perhaps showcasing this test runs better without SMT enabled.

Dwarf Fortress 0.44.12: Link

Another long standing request for our benchmark suite has been Dwarf Fortress, a popular management/roguelike indie video game, first launched in 2006 and still being regularly updated today, aiming for a Steam launch sometime in the future.

Emulating the ASCII interfaces of old, this title is a rather complex beast, which can generate environments subject to millennia of rule, famous faces, peasants, and key historical figures and events. The further you get into the game, depending on the size of the world, the slower it becomes as it has to simulate more famous people, more world events, and the natural way that humanoid creatures take over an environment. Like some kind of virus.

For our test we’re using DFMark. DFMark is a benchmark built by vorsgren on the Bay12Forums that gives two different modes built on DFHack: world generation and embark. These tests can be configured, but range anywhere from 3 minutes to several hours. After analyzing the test, we ended up going for three different world generation sizes:

  • Small, a 65x65 world with 250 years, 10 civilizations and 4 megabeasts
  • Medium, a 127x127 world with 550 years, 10 civilizations and 4 megabeasts
  • Large, a 257x257 world with 550 years, 40 civilizations and 10 megabeasts

DFMark outputs the time to run any given test, so this is what we use for the output. We loop the small test for as many times possible in 10 minutes, the medium test for as many times in 30 minutes, and the large test for as many times in an hour.

(3-2a) Dwarf Fortress 0.44.12 World Gen 65x65, 250 Yr(3-2b) Dwarf Fortress 0.44.12 World Gen 129x129, 550 Yr(3-2c) Dwarf Fortress 0.44.12 World Gen 257x257, 550 Yr

As a mostly ST test, the consumer processors do best here. However overall, TR Pro does better than TR.

Dolphin v5.0 Emulation: Link

Many emulators are often bound by single thread CPU performance, and general reports tended to suggest that Haswell provided a significant boost to emulator performance. This benchmark runs a Wii program that ray traces a complex 3D scene inside the Dolphin Wii emulator. Performance on this benchmark is a good proxy of the speed of Dolphin CPU emulation, which is an intensive single core task using most aspects of a CPU. Results are given in seconds, where the Wii itself scores 1051 seconds.

(3-3) Dolphin 5.0 Render Test

Factorio v1.1.26: Link

One of the most requested simulation game tests we’ve had in recently is that of Factorio, a construction and management title where the user builds endless automated factories of increasing complexity. Factorio falls under the same banner as other simulation games where users can lose hundreds of hours of sleepless nights configuring the minutae of their production line.

Our new benchmark here takes the v1.1.26 version of the game, a fixed map, and uses the automated benchmark mode to calculate how long it takes to run 1000 updates. This is then repeated for 5 minutes, and the best time to complete is used, reported in updates per second. The benchmark is single threaded and said to be reliant on cache size and memory.

Details for the benchmark can be found at this link.

(3-4a) Factorio v1.1.26 Test, 10K Trains(3-4b) Factorio v1.1.26 Test, 10K Belts(3-4c) Factorio v1.1.26 Test, 20K Hybrid

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  • Threska - Friday, July 16, 2021 - link

    One could have more than one.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/mc8j2c/...

    Especially depending upon the memory type.

    https://semiengineering.com/what-designers-need-to...
  • croc - Monday, July 19, 2021 - link

    The first year anniversary of the Threadripper Pro! And a timely review to celebrate it! Not the CPU, the release... Because that might be the last Threadripper we see for quite some time....

    I get the impression that AMD has been in the position of runer up for so long now that they don't know how to capitalize on a lead. Either that or by selling off their fab they have lost touch with how to design for fabrication, which might explain their failure to deliver product at the 7NM node. Unfilled Epycs, no Zen 3 Threadrippers...
  • mode_13h - Monday, July 19, 2021 - link

    What a croc!
    ; )

    > that might be the last Threadripper we see for quite some time....

    The announcement for Chagall is rumored to be coming in August, with volume shipping in September. Have you heard otherwise?

    > by selling off their fab they have lost touch with how to design for fabrication

    Huh? Why do you think the issue is design-related?

    And if we're contemplating counter-factuals, then let's not lose sight of the fact that GF is still on 12 nm. And if AMD still owned them, we should also consider whether the whole enterprise would still be doing business, at all.

    > which might explain their failure to deliver product at the 7NM node.

    Or maybe they're in the same boat as everyone else, facing higher demand and restricted supply?
  • croc - Tuesday, July 20, 2021 - link

    Lemmee see.... Wasn't Chagall an artist? And wasn't the code name for the Threadripper Zen 3 to be Genesis Peak? And aren't you quoting a rumor? Have there been ANY leaked benchmarks? Has ANY processor EVER launched without leaked benchmarks?

    The lack of things often speak volumes...
  • mode_13h - Tuesday, July 20, 2021 - link

    > And aren't you quoting a rumor?

    Yes, that's exactly what I said.

    > Have there been ANY leaked benchmarks?
    > Has ANY processor EVER launched without leaked benchmarks?

    It's a niche product. There typically aren't many motherboard options for them (and even fewer, at launch). I think it's not surprising, if there aren't any benchmark leaks as of yet. There won't be many engineering samples floating around.

    Anyway, we'll know within about 5 weeks if there's any truth to the rumor.
  • croc - Wednesday, July 21, 2021 - link

    I will know when a bios with AGESA support for a Zen 3 Threadripper arrives. None have arrived yet, and typically they do so about a month prior. Chagal is an artist, and artist names are usually reserved for apus. Supposedly the next TR will use the TRX40 socket, which means that there are many MBs for testing / leaking. Given that the Epyc still uses the SP3 socket, I believe this to be tue The latest 'chagall' rumor is that it won't release before Sept, mebbe as late as November. Gotta love them movable goal posts

    Personaly, I don't think that AMD can get the cores to deliver at the frequencies required for an HEDT product Hell, given their back orders for their server chip I doubt that they even care. Bigger fish to fry, all that. Still, a bit of egg-on-face for Dr. Su. And niche? don't tell the CGI world that they are niche...
  • Qasar - Wednesday, July 21, 2021 - link

    sorry croc, but you could be wrong, looks like TR based on zen 3 could be Chagall, and on both STRX4 and SWRX8, at least according to here :
    https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-threadripper...
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Zen-3-based-Ryzen-Th...

    from moores law is dead, a video about TR zen 3 :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la-7Q_VsWUM
    but no concrete info as of yet, but a search on google for threadripper zen 3, all seems to say the same, code name chagall
  • croc - Saturday, July 24, 2021 - link

    No new BIOS since April... 7 days to August, so looks like another no-show, eh...
  • Qasar - Saturday, July 24, 2021 - link

    and the point is ? considering their has been no official announcement from amd when zen 3 TR is to be released, why would there be a bios for it yet ?
    the point of my reply was that you could be wrong on the code name, not the release date.

    at least amd HAS a HEDT cpu, when was the last one from intel ?

    bottom line : all there are, are rumors, which should be taken with some salt.
  • croc - Monday, July 26, 2021 - link

    That would be the Xeon w-3175x

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