Announcement Four: AVX-512 & Favored Core

To complete the set, there are a couple of other points worth discussing. First up is that AVX-512 support coming to Skylake-X. Intel has implemented AVX-512 (or at least a variant of it) in the last generation of Xeon Phi processors, Knights Landing, but this will be the first implementation in a consumer/enterprise core.

Intel hasn’t given many details on AVX-512 yet, regarding whether there is one or two units per CPU, or if it is more granular and is per core. We expect it to be enabled on day one, although I have a suspicion there may be a BIOS flag that needs enabling in order to use it.

As with AVX and AVX2, the goal here is so provide a powerful set of hardware to solve vector calculations. The silicon that does this is dense, so sustained calculations run hot: we’ve seen processors that support AVX and AVX2 offer decreased operating frequencies when these instructions come along, and AVX-512 will be no different. Intel has not clarified at what frequency the AVX-512 instructions will run at, although if each core can support AVX-512 we suspect that the reduced frequency will only effect that core.

With the support of AVX-512, Intel is calling the Core i9-7980X ‘the first TeraFLOP CPU’. I’ve asked details as to how this figure is calculated (software, or theoretical), but it does make a milestone in processor design. We are muddying the waters a bit here though: an AVX unit does vector calculations, as does a GPU. We’re talking about parallel compute processes completed by dedicated hardware – the line between general purpose CPU and anything else is getting blurred.

Favored Core

For Broadwell-E, the last generation of Intel’s HEDT platform, we were introduced to the term ‘Favored Core’, which was given the title of Turbo Boost Max 3.0. The idea here is that each piece of silicon that comes off of the production line is different (which is then binned to match to a SKU), but within a piece of silicon the cores themselves will have different frequency and voltage characteristics. The one core that is determined to be the best is called the ‘Favored Core’, and when Intel’s Windows 10 driver and software were in place, single threaded workloads were moved to this favored core to run faster.

In theory, it was good – a step above the generic Turbo Boost 2.0 and offered an extra 100-200 MHz for single threaded applications. In practice, it was flawed: motherboard manufacturers didn’t support it, or they had it disabled in the BIOS by default. Users had to install the drivers and software as well – without the combination of all of these at work, the favored core feature didn’t work at all.

Intel is changing the feature for Skylake-X, with an upgrade and for ease-of-use. The driver and software are now part of Windows updates, so users will get them automatically (if you don’t want it, you have to disable it manually). With Skylake-X, instead of one core being the favored core, there are two cores in this family. As a result, two apps can be run at the higher frequency, or one app that needs two cores can participate.

Availability

Last but not least, let's talk about availability. Intel will likely announce availability during the keynote at Computex, which is going on at the same time as this news post goes live. The launch date should be sooner rather than later for the LCC parts, although the HCC parts are unknown. But no matter what, I think it's safe to say that by the end of this summer, we should expect a showdown over the best HEDT processor around.

Announcement Three: Skylake-X's New L3 Cache Architecture
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  • TEAMSWITCHER - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    The reality is ... that despite having a 14C/28T machine ... you will probably still browse more on your smartphone.
  • Notmyusualid - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link

    Nope - I despise browsing on my smartphone, but I do use it as a telephone / walkman / GPS mostly, if that is not too unusual? I'm not one of the 'head-down generation', and I'll try not to pick up my phone in restaurants, at meetings, in the pub, or when crossing the road.

    My 14C/28T is the one usually busy browsing (its just SO smoooth), or when I'm on the road like now - running World Community Grid, mining Ethereum, or just being my UK-based Remote Desktop - so I can deal with bills / deal with Paypal etc - without having to reset my account password everytime as is often required when I login from overseas...

    AMD's Threadripper & Intels new offerings are onto something here though - these large core count chips offer the smoothest computing experience you are ever going to find. Complex HTML pages are dealt with ease... installs zip by, archives unpacked so quickly, boot times (save for X99 bios) are nearly instant.

    I'll take that 12C/24T from Intel about this time next year.
  • Kevin G - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    I actually do that for work email. Not because my quad core i7 based laptop is slow. Rather that Outlook wasn't written by programmers but sadists who enjoy mass suffering. Some desktop applications are so flawed going to another tool to save me the pain and hassle is more efficient.
  • Namisecond - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link

    You need to clean out your mailbox and the Exchange admins need to run maintenance on the databases. When you've got less than a 4GB .ost file, stuff works well. :p
  • theuglyman0war - Thursday, June 8, 2017 - link

    last legs? The desktop market was a multi billion dollar market before internet saturation and it will still be one after all the house wives and kiddies are on phones n consoles. Then it will resemble the HEDT market that use to cater to me and was not second guessed for silly non HEDT ( non workstation concerns ).
    Good riddance!
  • eddman - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Absolutely not interested in these. Do they have any plans to release 6 and 8 core models for socket 1151?
  • extide - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    I think we will see 6 cores on next gen mainstream design which may indeed be 1151 compatible...
  • Teknobug - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Well so much for having interest in the i9, pricepoint is way out of whack.
  • martinkrol - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    I am thinking the same. Since I do a lot of 3d work I am thinking of upgrading my i7 3930k to a double xeon of that same generation or just slightly newer. It will allow me to use a lot more ram, and get double the threads which will help in multi-tasking. ( working and rendering on the same box for example ). Nowadays an hp z820 goes for fairly cheap and I can outfit that with 256gb ram for around the same price as one of these new top end i9 processors.
  • ltcommanderdata - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Any word on whether Skylake-X is treated like the rest of Skylake by Microsoft/Intel and has official Windows 7/8.1 support? Or will Broadwell-E remain the fastest/last CPUs that have official multi-boot support for Windows 7/8.1/10?x

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