Conclusion

Samsung's System LSI business had a rough two years as their decision to go with ARM's big.LITTLE SoC architecture cost them a lot of market share, thanks in part to immature software and implementation issues. Usually in the past Samsung's own Exynos SoCs were regarded as the more performant variant given the choice of Qualcomm's Scorpion CPU based solutions. This changed as the Exynos 5410 came out with a malfunctioning CCI, crippling the chip to the most battery inefficient operating mode of big.LITTLE.

Qualcomm's Snapdragon 800 capitalized on the new 28nm HPM manufacturing process, along with the advantage of being able to offer an integrated modem solution, and has dominated the market ever since. It's only now that Samsung is able to recover as the new 20nm manufacturing process allowed them to catch up and start to offer their own Exynos SoC in more variants of its products, a trend that I expect to continue in Samsung's future lineup.

The Note 4 with the Exynos 5433 is the first of a new generation, taking advantage of ARM's new ARMv8 cores. On the CPU side, there's no contest. The A53 and A57 architectures don't hold back in terms of performance, and routinely outperform the Snapdragon 805 by a considerable amount. This gap could even widen as the ecosystem adopts ARMv8 native applications and if Samsung decides to update the phone's software to an AArch64 stack. I still think the A57 is a tad too power hungry in this device, but as long as thermal management is able keep the phone's temperatures in reign, which it seems that it does, there's no real disadvantage to running them at such high clocks. The question is whether efficiency is where it should be. ARM promises that we'll be seeing much improved numbers in the future as licensees get more experience with the IP, something which we're looking forward to test.

On the GPU side, things are not as clear. The Mali T760 made a lot of advancements towards trying to catch up with the Adreno 420 but stopped just short of achieving that, leaving the Qualcomm chip a very small advantage. I still find it surprising that the Mali T760 is able to keep up at all while having only half the available memory bandwidth; things will get interesting once LPDDR4 devices come in the next few months to equalize things again between competing SoCs. Also ARM surprised us with quite a boost of GPU driver efficiency, something I didn't expect and which may have real-world performance implications that we might not see in our synthetic benchmarks.

It's the battery life aspect that I think it's most disappointing to me. It's a pity that Samsung didn't go through more effort to optimize the software stack in this regard. When you are able to take advantage of vertical integration and posses multi-billion dollar semiconductor manufacturing plants with what seem to be talented SoC design teams, it's critical to not skimp out on software. I might be a bit harsh here given that the battery disadvantage was just 12% in our web-browsing test and might be less in real-world usage, and the GPU battery efficiency seems neck-and-neck. Still, it's the wasted potential from a purely technical perspective that is disheartening.

This is definitely a wake-up call to ARM and their partners as well. If the software situation of big.LITTLE isn't improved soon I'm fearing that ship will have sailed away, as both Samsung and Qualcomm are working on their custom ARMv8 cores.

So the question is, is it still worth to try and get an Exynos variant over the Snapdragon one? I definitely think so. In everyday usage the Exynos variant is faster. The small battery disadvantage is more than outweighed by the increased performance of the new ARM cores.

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  • Andrei Frumusanu - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    The article was never intended to be released this late, so no.
  • Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    I'm just not seeing this huge trouncing of the 805. Where is it? It is ahead slightly, but its battary life suffers by what appears to be a roughly equal amount. So it is basically the same as an overclocked 805. But the 805 is an older more straightforward, proven design and it is probably quite a bit cheaper at this point.
  • extide - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    It's not supposed to trounce it...
  • tipoo - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    Power draw increases *more* than proportionally with clock speed, so an overclocked S805 matched to the performance of these would likely draw more power than them.

    But yes, I do agree that the tradeoff is less than exciting. Denver also draws too much power, so we really don't have much in the Android SoC space.
  • lopri - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    Geez. The article is too in-depth! ;) I do not know how long it will take for me to finish reading but I wanted to say thank you ahead.
  • Tikcus9666 - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    All these phone reviews are overkill IMO the first one of any giving technology or OS is relevant the rest not so much, there are only a few things important with a phone(smart or other).

    This one is slightly more relevant since it looks at 2 phones marketed as the same device (however since both versions are not available in the same region it is a mute point)

    Can you make phone calls without it dropping the call
    Can you send and receive text messages
    Does opening email, or any applications happen in a timely fashion
    Does it work without crashing

    If 1 phone renders a web page a few MS faster than another, it does not matter
    If 1 phone can run a game at a few more FPS it does not matter if the slower phone offers acceptable performance.
    If a photo is slightly better on phone a compared to phone B it doesn't matter since it is not good enough to print anyway (unless they start putting proper sensors at least 1/2.3, on phones you will never take acceptable photos). As long as it is good enough to view on the 4/5/6" screen to capture the moment it is good enough.
  • TomWomack - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    But this isn't a review of a phone. If you want a review of a phone, many specialised phone-reviewing sites which look at stupid details to do with phone calls and text messages are available.

    This is a review of a processor and a GPU; quite plausibly the people at ODROID will make the processor and GPU available on a convenient mini-ITX-sized board with an HDMI connector before Christmas, at which point knowing the cache configuration of the computer is quite handy.
  • blzd - Saturday, February 14, 2015 - link

    I think you may have made a left when you should've made a right.

    We don't come to Anandtech to see that "yet another SoC delivers acceptable performance, you can all go home now!" lol.
  • Cygni - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    I was worried about AnandTech without Anand and Brian's insanely thorough testing and writing style. I'm feeling a lot better after reading this article. Great job Andrei/Ryan, great article.
  • lilo777 - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    in fact the opposite is true. With Anand and Brian, Apple products always were praised beyond the reason. Not the case here (although it's primarily a comparison between non-Apple products). Just pure technical stuff as is.

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