Conclusion

Samsung's System LSI business had a rough two years as their decision to go with ARM's big.LITTLE SoC architecture cost them a lot of market share, thanks in part to immature software and implementation issues. Usually in the past Samsung's own Exynos SoCs were regarded as the more performant variant given the choice of Qualcomm's Scorpion CPU based solutions. This changed as the Exynos 5410 came out with a malfunctioning CCI, crippling the chip to the most battery inefficient operating mode of big.LITTLE.

Qualcomm's Snapdragon 800 capitalized on the new 28nm HPM manufacturing process, along with the advantage of being able to offer an integrated modem solution, and has dominated the market ever since. It's only now that Samsung is able to recover as the new 20nm manufacturing process allowed them to catch up and start to offer their own Exynos SoC in more variants of its products, a trend that I expect to continue in Samsung's future lineup.

The Note 4 with the Exynos 5433 is the first of a new generation, taking advantage of ARM's new ARMv8 cores. On the CPU side, there's no contest. The A53 and A57 architectures don't hold back in terms of performance, and routinely outperform the Snapdragon 805 by a considerable amount. This gap could even widen as the ecosystem adopts ARMv8 native applications and if Samsung decides to update the phone's software to an AArch64 stack. I still think the A57 is a tad too power hungry in this device, but as long as thermal management is able keep the phone's temperatures in reign, which it seems that it does, there's no real disadvantage to running them at such high clocks. The question is whether efficiency is where it should be. ARM promises that we'll be seeing much improved numbers in the future as licensees get more experience with the IP, something which we're looking forward to test.

On the GPU side, things are not as clear. The Mali T760 made a lot of advancements towards trying to catch up with the Adreno 420 but stopped just short of achieving that, leaving the Qualcomm chip a very small advantage. I still find it surprising that the Mali T760 is able to keep up at all while having only half the available memory bandwidth; things will get interesting once LPDDR4 devices come in the next few months to equalize things again between competing SoCs. Also ARM surprised us with quite a boost of GPU driver efficiency, something I didn't expect and which may have real-world performance implications that we might not see in our synthetic benchmarks.

It's the battery life aspect that I think it's most disappointing to me. It's a pity that Samsung didn't go through more effort to optimize the software stack in this regard. When you are able to take advantage of vertical integration and posses multi-billion dollar semiconductor manufacturing plants with what seem to be talented SoC design teams, it's critical to not skimp out on software. I might be a bit harsh here given that the battery disadvantage was just 12% in our web-browsing test and might be less in real-world usage, and the GPU battery efficiency seems neck-and-neck. Still, it's the wasted potential from a purely technical perspective that is disheartening.

This is definitely a wake-up call to ARM and their partners as well. If the software situation of big.LITTLE isn't improved soon I'm fearing that ship will have sailed away, as both Samsung and Qualcomm are working on their custom ARMv8 cores.

So the question is, is it still worth to try and get an Exynos variant over the Snapdragon one? I definitely think so. In everyday usage the Exynos variant is faster. The small battery disadvantage is more than outweighed by the increased performance of the new ARM cores.

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  • tipoo - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    I don't know how one can read AT and think this. Read the Nvidia Denver (k1 64) architecture detail. Read the Apple A7 analysis, and by extension that's also the A8. They're not "a57 derivative", they're completely custom.
  • ergo98 - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    Oh save the noise. Both nvidia and Apple are design partners of ARM, and have a long history of deriving from ARM designs. The Apple design (which you seem certain of, despite having zero possible authority to be so) is almost certainly derived from earlier revision A57 designs. Yes, just like Snapdragon they modify and heavily, but a big benefit of being ARM partners is that they don't have to do all of the work themselves.

    I don't know how you can read Anandtech and not have any rational knowledge of how the semi world works.
  • Alexvrb - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    They are ISA compatible... but that doesn't mean they're direct derivatives. The custom cores are often quite different in terms of underlying architecture from the reference ARM designs. If it was a simple tweaked ARM design, Qualcomm wouldn't be deploying a reference core in their upcoming flagship - their next-gen custom core isn't ready yet because it takes time.
  • Dmcq - Wednesday, February 11, 2015 - link

    If anything the Apple Cyclone looks more like a Dec Alpha EV6/EV7 and the Nvidia Denver is like the Transmeta Crusoe rather than the ARM A15 or A57.
  • tipoo - Wednesday, February 11, 2015 - link

    Hide your wrongness in anger, why don't you. They are ISA compatible, nothing more. Apple doesn't even hold an A57 licence, they only licence the ISA now. And Nvidias architecture is very clearly completely different, if you knew what code morphing and VLIW were you would not be arguing this. Save your own noise.
  • tipoo - Wednesday, February 11, 2015 - link

    Here, since you can't do your own research. The entire core design is quite different from the relatively narrow A57.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7910/apples-cyclone-...

    You could call them "derivative" in that the Core series is derivative of the pentium 3, but still nearly completely different.
  • doctorpink - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    Ergo98 : You are so completely lost my friend! LOL Those who replied to you are right.
  • jameskatt - Tuesday, February 10, 2015 - link

    Note that the A9 will soon be coming out this year. This means Apple will be 2 generations ahead of the pack when it comes to 64-bit processors. And unlike the Tegra, it is also going into the iPhone, not just a tablet.
  • theduckofdeath - Sunday, February 15, 2015 - link

    And the Tegra T2 won't be announced this year? Or the 14nm Exynos processors (You know, the ONLY 14nm mobile processors in the world)
  • DarkLeviathan - Saturday, December 19, 2015 - link

    I'm very sure that the Exynos is not the only 14nm processors in the world. And you know that making it a smaller process doesn't make it better right? Just take a look at Chip-gate on the new iPhones. TSMC's 16nm is better than Samsung's 14nm. And apply to their own Exynos processors. Maybe they would do better if they were 16nm too huh?

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