Total War: Shogun 2

Total War: Shogun 2 is the latest installment of the long-running Total War series of turn based strategy games, and alongside Civilization V is notable for just how many units it can put on a screen at once. As it also turns out, it’s the single most punishing game in our benchmark suite.

With Shogun 2, the 7950 once again shifts into a comfortable lead over the GTX 580. At 2560 the 7950 is ahead by 7%, while at 1920 and its lower settings this grows to 17%. Relative to the 7970 the 7950 is consistently behind by 18%, indicating that Shogun 2 is largely shader bound, and as a result giving us one of the largest gaps between the 7970 and 7950 in our benchmark suite. This also means the factory overclocked cards can’t get quite as close to the 7970 as they can in other games, but at the same time it means performance generally scales very closely with clockspeed, with the XFX and Sapphire cards picking up 11% and 10% respectively.

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  • chizow - Sunday, February 5, 2012 - link

    Typical, resort to histrionics instead of facts and reasoning when arguing.

    Like I said, the value in the mid-range is there every single generation, not just with the 8800GT. There's a reason why AnandTech and many other sites proclaimed that launch "The Only Card that Matters" and since then any similar card that offers that same price:performance metric relative to the high end is affectionately referred to as "the next 8800GT" like the GTX 460/560 etc.
  • Galidou - Sunday, February 5, 2012 - link

    Still you won't take any arguments that will justify paying triple the price of a card for not even double the performance, or paying more for a card that offer less performance than a last gen x2 card NEVER.

    That gtx280 was really mispriced and Nvidia took people for dummies by pricing it so high for the performance you gained. The most performance you saw out of those was due to the first over 1gb memory in high resolution like 2560 which applied to not even .5% of the gaming population back then

    I don'T care about the titles, titles mean nothing to me that ''only card that matters'' doesn'T change the fact that paying triple the price for a video card for not even double the performance is tanking people for dummies.
  • Galidou - Sunday, February 5, 2012 - link

    We should be happy that Ati doesn't use such pricing technique because it competes against last gen refreshed video cards and justify to pay a higher % price than the % of performance you gain.
  • chizow - Sunday, February 5, 2012 - link

    Yeah they use far worst, at least this time.

    They offer linear scaling of price and performance instead of offering better performance at the same prices which you would expect from a next-gen chip.
  • chizow - Sunday, February 5, 2012 - link

    Why would I take any of your arguments when they are CLEARLY flawed.

    Its funny why don't you try using those arguments to justify the 7970's pricing? LMAO. Triple? Its not even DOUBLE the performance of previous mid-range cards.

    Or previous x2 cards? The 7970 isn't even in the same discussion as the 6990 or GTX 590.

    And of course, we've already covered how it falls completely short with regard to previous generation single-GPU flagship cards. Yet AMD somehow thinks it was worth a 10% increase in prices, something not even Nvidia has done since the 8800GTX.

    What's REALLY funny though is how you seem to think the GTX 280 was priced for dummies given it actually meets the standards for next-gen GPUs and deserved its price, yet see NOTHING wrong at all with the pricing of the 7970.

    Now what does that say about you and those defending it??? :(
  • Galidou - Sunday, February 5, 2012 - link

    It's not double the performance but not double the price either still 7950 performance of gtx580 for cheaper price, convinces me enough to say it isn't taking people for dummies...
  • chizow - Sunday, February 5, 2012 - link

    Yeah once again, selective application of flawed logic.

    Like I said, Tahiti meets none of the established standards you'd expect from a flagship part while the GTX 280.

    Yet you think the GTX 280 was priced for dummies and the 7970/7950's pricing is perfectly justified?

    Honestly that just makes you look dishonest.

    Or the exact type of customer AMD is looking to entice maybe! :D
  • Galidou - Sunday, February 5, 2012 - link

    LOL I'm not even looking at changing video card but I can say bad things about ATI but you'Re definitely 1: a hardcore Nvidia fanboy or 2: they pay you to say things about standard justifying stupid prices... lol standard, what an argument, next tie I'll buy a video card, I'll try to forget a little about perfromance and look at the standard...
  • chizow - Sunday, February 5, 2012 - link

    and galidou goes off the deepend folks.
  • Galidou - Sunday, February 5, 2012 - link

    mets the standard, now chizow is our standard expert, point is I look at numbers, not standard, triple the price not double the performance, I don'T care abbout the standard when I game with it on my computer.

    Oh wait my game stopped playing, it tells me, this video card doesn'T meet the standard for it'S price... OMG I should of cared more....

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