Total War: Shogun 2

One of our goals with this iteration of our benchmark suite was to throw in some additional non-FPS games, so we’re broadening our horizons a bit by adding in Total War: Shogun 2. Shogun 2 is the latest installment of the long-running Total War series of turn based strategy games, and alongside Civilization V is notable for just how many units it can put on a screen at once. As it also turns out, it’s the single most punishing game in our benchmark suite.

Total War: Shogun 2

Total War: Shogun 2

Total War: Shogun 2

When deciding on what settings to use with Shogun, it required a bit more creativity on our part. 2560 is a true moonshot; everything is turned on, and it takes a minimum of 1.5GB of VRAM to run the game at this resolution. Accordingly performance is rather dismal, though as this is a TBS 30fps isn’t quite as critical as it is in other games. In any case the 7970 comes the closest to hitting 30fps, coming in just shy at 28.2fps, which is 29% ahead of the GTX 580 and 48% ahead of the 6970.

Meanwhile for 1920 we turned Shogun’s settings down to Very High, and yet we still had to disable MSAA to make it work with 1GB cards (did we mention that Shogun loves VRAM?). At these lower settings performance rockets up, and at the same time so does the 7970’s lead over the GTX 580. Here it’s 36% ahead of the GTX 580, which will be the greatest lead among all of our gaming benchmarks. As for the 7970 compared to the 6970, it’s still 48% of the 6970 showing us just how similar these video cards are at times.

Finally at 1680 the overall performance goes up yet again, but the 7970’s lead remains. It’s ahead of the GTX 580 by 30%, and 48% ahead of the 6970.

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  • SlyNine - Friday, December 23, 2011 - link

    Are you nuts, the 5870 was nearly 2x as fast in DX 10/9 stuff, not to mention DX11 was way ahead of DX10. Sure the 6970 isn't a great upgrade from a 5870, but neither is the 7970.

    Questionable Premise
  • CeriseCogburn - Thursday, March 8, 2012 - link

    That happened at the end of 2006 with the G80 Roald. That means AMD and their ATI Radeon aquisition crew are five years plus late to the party.
    FIVE YEARS LATE.
    It's nice to know that what Nvidia did years ago and recently as well is now supported by more people as amd copycats the true leader.
    Good deal.
  • Hauk - Thursday, December 22, 2011 - link

    A stunningly comprehensive analysis of this new architecture. This is what sets Anandtech apart from its competition. Kudos Ryan, this is one of your best..
  • eastyy - Thursday, December 22, 2011 - link

    its funny though when it comes to new hardware you read these complicated technical jargon and lots of detailed specs about how cards do things different how much more technically complicated and in the end for me all it means is...+15fps and thats about it

    as soon as a card comes out for say 150 and the games i play become slow and jerky on my 460 then i will upgrade
  • Mockingbird - Thursday, December 22, 2011 - link

    I'd like to see some benchmarks on FX-8150 based system (990fx)
  • piroroadkill - Friday, December 23, 2011 - link

    Haha, the irony is that AMD is putting out graphics cards that would be bottlenecked HARDCORE by ANY of their CPUs, overclocked as much as you like.

    It's kind of tragic...
  • Pantsu - Friday, December 23, 2011 - link

    The performance increase was as expected, at least for me, certainly not for all those who thought this would double performance. Considering AMD had a 389mm^2 chip with Cayman, they weren't going to double the transistor count again. That would've meant the next gen after this would be Nvidia class huge ass chip. So 64% more transistors on a 365mm^2 chip. Looks like transistor density increase took a bit of a hit on 28nm, perhaps because of 384-bit bus? Still I think AMD is doing better than Nvidia when it comes to density.

    As far as the chip size is concerned, the performance is OK, but I really question whether 32 ROPs is enough on this design. Fermi has 48 ROPs and about a billion transistors less. I think AMD is losing AA performance due to such a skimpy ROP count.

    Overall the card is good regardless, but the pricing is indeed steep. I'm sure people will buy it nonetheless, but as a 365mm^2 chip with 3GB GDDR5 I feel like it should be 100$ cheaper than what it is now. I blame lack of competition. It's Nvidia's time to drop the prices. GTX 580 is simply not worth that much compared to what 6950/560Ti are going for these days. And in turn that should drop 7970/50 price.
  • nadavvadan - Friday, December 23, 2011 - link

    Am I really tired, or is:
    " 3.79TFLOPs, while its FP64 performance is ¼ that at 947MFLOPs"
    supposed to be:
    " 3.79TFLOPs, while its FP64 performance is ¼ that at 947-G-FLOPs"?

    Enjoyed the review as always.
  • Death666Angel - Friday, December 23, 2011 - link

    Now that you have changed the benchmark, would it be possible to publish a .pdf with the relevant settings of each game? I would be very interested to replicate some of the tests with my home system to better compare some results. If it is not too much work that is (and others are interested in this as well). :D
  • marc1000 - Friday, December 23, 2011 - link

    What about juniper? Could it make it's way to the 7000 series as a 7670 card? Of course, upgraded to GCN, but with same specs as current cards. I guess that at 28nm it would be possible to abandon the pci-e power requirement, making it the go-to card for oem's and low power/noise systems.

    I would not buy it because I own one now, but I'm looking forward to 7770 or 7870 and their nvidia equivalent. It looks like next year will be a great time to upgrade for who is in the middle cards market.

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