Overclocking

AMD indicated the FX-8150 was good for around 4.6GHz using air cooling, 5GHz using water cooling and beyond with more aggressive cooling methods. In our experience with the platform, hitting 4.6GHz, stable, on a stock AMD HSF was not an issue. Moving beyond 4.6GHz on air saw a significant decrease in stability however. I could boot and run benchmarks at 4.7GHz but I'd almost always encounter a crash. I couldn't hit 5GHz on air.

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  • kiwidude - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    I think this shows what a great job Intel have been doing more than confirming your insulting comment about AMD engineers.
  • JohanAnandtech - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    "Brand new and spanking Bulldozer has it roots in ancient K6"

    There is some K7 heritage left, but I can not see in any way how this CPU relates to the K6! The K6 had a very short pipeline, a unpipelined FPU for example.

    As when it comes to the server market: AMD seems to have overclocked and cherry picked the 3.6 GHz FX-8100. For the desktop market, clockspeed rules, so AMD didn't care too much about power consumption.

    For the server market, they can go with lower clocked 95 W TDP parts. These should have a much better performance/watt ratio. Also, the server market runs at 30-80% CPU load, the desktopmarket runs a few cores at 100%. So the powermanagement features will show better results in the server market.

    The gaming software needs fast caches (latency!) as IPC is decent. The server software is more forgiving when it comes to cache latency as IPC is more determined by the number of memory accesses and thread synchronization. That is the reason why that L3 is so handy. I think you should wait to condemn bulldozer until it is has been benchmarked on our server benchmarking suite.

    I am worried about the legacy HPC performance of this chip though.It will take some recompiling before the chip starts to shine in this market.
  • FunBunny2 - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    Had to get this far in the comment thread for sanity. Clearly, AMD (and one may disagree) has chosen to go for superior integer performance in a threaded architecture. D'oh! So what? It means they don't give a rat's rectum about gamers. They care a whole lot about application and database servers. They also accept the fact that single threaded is dying, so just kill it.
  • Makaveli - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    I stayed up and read this its 2 in the morning excellent review as always anand.

    But instead of back to the future its back to the P4???

    Why AMD WHY for the love of everything holy!
  • Sind - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    Disappointing.. I hope they can get it together with the aggressive road map.
  • wolfman3k5 - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    I know, right. I'm also patiently waiting for the AMD Bendover architecture. Maybe it will be competitive, who knows...
  • kiwidude - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    Hi, the CPU Specification Comparison chart has incorrect info listed under X6 1100T and X4 980 NB clocks. Great review as always love your work.
  • wolfman3k5 - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    NewEgg doesn't even have any Bulldozers in stock, at all. Not the AMD FX 8150 or AMD FX 8120. I guess that no one is in a hurry to grab one...
  • enterco - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    Hell, Amazon UK doesn't have any Bulldozer neither...
  • ckryan - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    Maybe Newegg filed them under Server CPUs where BullDozer belongs.

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