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Battery Life and Power: For Better and for Worse

This much we know: with high performance comes high power requirements and low battery life. The Racer has a quad-core Sandy Bridge processor coupled to the second fastest single-chip mobile GPU. We’ve seen Sandy Bridge hit idle power requirements of as little as 10W for a 17.3” chassis, but that was without a discrete GPU. Our informal calculations suggest that NVIDIA’s GTX 460M requires about 10W of power, which would mean best-case you’d get half the battery life out of a notebook compared to IGP (or switchable graphics). We also know from the reviews of HD 5870 notebooks that AMD’s previous generation top GPU typically required more power than the NVIDIA competition. With 6970M we get some changes, but it’s not going to be superior in every way. Let’s start with battery life.

Battery Life - Idle

Battery Life - Internet

Battery Life - H.264 Playback

Relative Battery Life

When we tested the P170HM with GTX 485M, we measured best-case idle battery life of 141 minutes, Internet battery life of 137 minutes (only slightly lower), and H.264 decoding battery life of 110 minutes. Since it has a larger 17.3” LCD and an SSD plus hybrid HDD, we can reasonably assume it’s going to require slightly more power, so the P150HM should have better battery life—assuming the 6970M uses the same amount of power as the 485M. Both notebooks are using the same size 77Wh battery, so we can compare the results directly. The ASUS G73 series has a very slightly smaller battery, but it’s close enough that we’ll just look at the total minutes there as well.

What we find is that the P150HM enjoys a healthy lead over the 485M at idle, providing 27% more battery life. However, in both our Internet and H.264 playback tests, it looks like the 6970M is using a lot more power than the 485M. The P170HM only provides a few minutes more battery life in the Internet test, but again the presence of an extra SSD and a larger LCD mean it’s leading by more than that. The x264 test on the other hand really paints the 6970M in a bad light, with the NVIDIA chip providing 31% more battery life despite the chassis handicap. Downgrade to the 460M with a slightly slower CPU, and the G73SW leads at idle by 22%, in the Internet test that increases slightly to 25%, and in H.264 playback it’s a whopping 87%.

I ran a few additional battery life tests just for good measure. Looping 3DMark06, the battery lasted just 54 minutes before the system shut down—which is still far better than the previous generation Clarksfield W860CU where you’d last that long at idle. (Hooray for higher capacity batteries, Clevo!) If you run the LCD at maximum brightness, idle battery life drops to 158 minutes (so the LCD uses an extra 3.4W at 240 nits compared to 100 nits). Charging time is pretty reasonable for a 77Wh battery, requiring 128 minutes with the system running.

Obviously, you get more performance than 460M with the 6970M and 485M, but more than anything battery life results like these make us pine for the ability to switch between the IGP and dGPU—particularly since the IGP also supports Quick Sync. I’ve encountered glitches with NVIDIA’s Optimus Technology, but mostly those are driver quirks; I’d rather deal with a few quirks if it meant triple the battery life.

Investigating Power

As we did with the ASUS G73SW, we wanted to get an idea of what sort of power requirements the GPU puts on the system. We’ve looked at a quad-core Sandy Bridge setup with an SSD, 17.3” LCD, and no dGPU. By our calculations, that notebook used an amazingly low 9.04W at idle, 10.24W in the Internet test, and 16.38W in H.264 playback. In contrast, even running with the most conservative power settings, the Racer is drawing 25.81W idle, 34.48W Internet, and 55W for H.264 decoding. That latter figure is particularly bad, as the CPU should be able to handle all of the decoding work while using less power than that! While this is merely an estimate, it looks like the 6970M idles at around 16W, jumps to 24-25W for Internet use (with Flash ads present on the test pages), and reaches a high of nearly 40W for H.264 decoding. Yes, DXVA is working as the CPU load was only 2-3%, but at what cost?

We also ran some comparative power draw numbers for the P170HM and P150HM using a Kill-A-Watt meter with the notebooks on AC power. Again, the two notebooks use the same power adapter, so we shouldn’t have to worry about differences in efficiency. Idle power, as indicated by our battery life testing, favors the Racer/6970M: 36W versus 41W. With a high CPU load running Cinebench 11.5, the tables turn and the P170HM required 92W compared to 104W. Gaming switches places again, with the P150HM drawing a maximum of 142W vs. 158W, and with Furmark as a worst-case graphics test we hit 150W on the 6970M compared to 170W with the 485M. If you really want to punish a system by running Furmark with something like x264 encoding (which is what we did), we got the Racer up to 188W versus 211W with the P170HM.

So for the idle and heavy load tests, it looks like the P170HM + GTX 485M consistently requires more power than the P150HM + HD 6970M; however, as the battery tests show, the medium to light loads like Internet browsing and video playback may end up favoring NVIDIA. The reason for this may lie with the GPU clocks on the 6970HM. At idle with the GPU essentially inactive, the core clock is 100MHz and the RAM clock is 150MHz (600MHz effective). That’s fine and is similar to what NVIDIA does with their GPUs; the problem is what happens at intermediate loads. For H.264 decoding via DXVA, the 6970M kicks up to a core clock of 300MHz, but the RAM runs full tilt at 900MHz (3600MHz effective). While surfing the Internet I also saw the GPU clocks periodically increase to 400/900MHz for short intervals before returning to 100/150. At everything other than idle, it appears that the 6970M runs the GDDR5 memory at 3.6GHz. Couple that clock speed to a 256-bit memory interface and the moderate load scenarios really cut into potential battery life.

Contrast that with NVIDIA, where as one example the GTX 460M runs at 50/100MHz core/shader with 135MHz (270MHz effective) on the memory, but the 2D Desktop clocks are 202/405MHz core/shader with 324MHz (648MHz effective) on the memory. It’s only under 3D loads that the RAM will run at the full 1250 (2500) MHz clock speed. NVIDIA also tends to curtail performance while on battery power, so it’s not that their way is always superior; it’s simply different and in many cases appears to improve battery life at the cost of performance. Which brings us to our final power/battery related topic.

Performance on Battery Power

One last chart before we leave the power and battery discussions. With the ASUS G73SW, we showed that on battery power performance is only 23 to 39% of what you get on AC power when “playing games” (we used 3DMark because of repeatability). We ran the same set of tests for the Racer/P150HM. Guess what? It’s proportionately far faster at games than the GTX 460M when you’re on battery power, and presumably the same pattern would hold with the 485M:

DC Performance vs. AC Performance

Where the worst result on with the GTX 460M was 23% of AC performance in 3DMark Vantage Performance, with the 6970M you still get at least half of your plugged-in performance. Some of the 3DMark releases managed to run at three-fourths of AC performance, which is darn impressive for a beastly mobile GPU rated to draw between 75 and 100W of power. So while you won’t be able to play games for hours on end, at least if your power cord gets kicked out you won’t suddenly get a slideshow. AMD does restrict the GPU clocks while on DC power to 400MHz core (versus the normal 680MHz), but the GPU memory is again allowed to run at the full 900MHz (3.6GHz).

Gaming Performance: HD 6970M Nipping at the Heels of GTX 485M One of My Favorite Laptop LCDs of Recent History
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  • freezervv - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - link

    Re: "by Jarred Walton on 3/17/2011 3:00:00 AM"

    Or at least those of us ESTers just getting around to a catnap amidst exam studying. ;)
    Reply
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - link

    Hey, I'm PDT, so it's only just past midnight. And here I thought I'd be finished with this about six hours ago.... Reply
  • poohbear - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - link

    hello, can you guys please list the price or price segment of the product u're reviewing from the get go? Do i really hafta scroll all the way to the back to get an idea of what the price range is, or if its a waste of time reading the article cause its out of said price range? U're constantly saying it costs more or this costs less, but there's no clear cut price easy for us readers to see. A comparison of similar products would be great too, in a clean easy to understand graph please and thank u! Reply
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - link

    Page one, bottom of the spec table, in bold. Was that not clear enough? Reply
  • chrnochime - Friday, March 18, 2011 - link

    Bottom of the spec like Jarred said. Need that to be 3 or 4 larger font size? Reply
  • jcompagner - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - link

    And then for SandyBridge?

    If only 1 17" is made with a 1920x1200p resolution on this planet that is not from apple, i would buy it immediately..
    Reply
  • piroroadkill - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - link

    Well, the Dell Precision M6500 has a 1920x1200 screen, 17".. and was reviewed on Anandtech.

    But it's not Sandy Bridge yet. I'd imagine a good supply of new Sandy Bridge chipsets aren't common, but I'd have no doubt at all Dell will do a refresh on their Precision line with Sandy Bridge at some point in the near future. It also looks about a million times better than the Clevo stuff, which looks like a ghetto kit machine.
    Reply
  • bobsmith1492 - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - link

    I bought a Sager back in 2005 with a 1920x1200 matte screen. It's still up and running, though relatively slow these days and a few things are broken now. Reply
  • blah238 - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - link

    In my 3DMark Vantage settings, the "Performance" preset equates to 1280x1024, whereas "High" is 1680x1050. Did you have to use custom settings to get 1680x1050 or is there just a mixup of names? Reply
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - link

    Sorry, my mistake. I got the High default resolution of 1680x1050 confused with Performance. 1280x1024 panels are such a rarity these days that I was sure Vantage had switched to WS for everything. 3DMark11, interestingly enough, did shift to new resolutions. 1024x600 for Entry and 1600x900 for Performance I believe, with 1080p used at the High setting. About time...

    Now, if Futuremark would quit being idiots about changing my power settings every time I load one of their apps. Seriously: tweak all your power settings (i.e. don't put the LCD to sleep or hibernate the laptop after inactivity), then load any Futuremark app. When you're done, the power settings are now "display off after 5 minutes, ask for a password on resume, and hibernate/shut down with a low battery even when plugged in." Is it too much to think they should save my current settings and then restore them when the benchmark is done?
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