MSI 970 Gaming Conclusions

Regardless of the conclusions derived from the new FX-E series of processors from AMD, they see the $600 PC gaming market as a vibrant source of sales and upgrades. When it comes the FX-8320E and FX-8370E, their argument is always about performance to an equivalent costing Intel build, or that these CPUs offer an upgrade path to those still running FX-4000, FX-6000 or even Phenom II based CPUs. The only downside for MSI in that logic is that by upgrading a CPU, the user is not upgrading the motherboard, which is what MSI would rather happen.

The 970 Gaming is aiming at that cheaper market, by providing a motherboard suitable for single GPU gaming and an FX-8000 series processor. Very few motherboard manufacturers are actively pursuing this demographic, perhaps because margins are low or the numbers simply are not there. But what is available from MSI certainly looks the part. As their Gaming branding has evolved since 2013, it is clear that user perception of experience, rather than perhaps the experience itself or the technology behind it, comes in to play. Placing a user inside that MSI Gaming ecosystem, such as the styling, the forums and the atmosphere during a period of time when they cannot afford the big name and big performance parts allows them to develop an affinity for the brand and hopefully drives the bigger sale down the road.

For a motherboard under $100, it was going to be basic, but there are a couple of additions over the norm worth highlighting. The Killer networking solution, especially as a marketing tool, has worked well for MSI in the past and gets a showcasing here. This comes along with the enhanced Realtek ALC1150 audio solution which I would imagine MSI gets very cheap as it is used across most of the self-build motherboard range. The 970 chipset limits the user to a single NVIDIA GPU and PCIe 2.0, but for a $600 gaming system any dual card arrangement or at high resolutions is probably not on the cards, so the lack of x8/x8 or PCIe 3.0 is not a big loss.

Looking at the performance, if we directly compare the FX-8320E overclocking results of the 970 Gaming to the 990FX Extreme9, the latter has the headroom for another 100 MHz peak but also costs almost double. The 970 Gaming has a few downsides, such as offset-only overclocking and a lack of load-line calibration options, but it will provide a decent manual overclock when it needs to. The OC Genie seems dependent on the CPU being used, and while it failed with the FX-8320E, the FX-8150 had no issue at all.

Benchmarks threw up a couple of yellow flags, with some results being a lot lower than expected but the rest were higher than the Extreme9 by a few percentage points. USB speed, THD+N and DPC latency are lower than expected, but POST times are par for the course. Peak power consumption was the same as the Extreme9 within margin, but the 970 Gaming idled several watts lower.

To put it bluntly, the 970 Gaming has a few flaws. At $100 we were not expecting perfection, and while it achieved a little more than a $190 motherboard did in a few benchmarks, it was quite a way behind in others. But the gaming-positive styling, the MSI Gaming ecosystem and the couple of technical improvements over the base specifications can make up for this a little. We reserve awards for motherboards that execute near-perfectly for their price range, and while the MSI has a lot of room to improve, it offers a very interesting element for the new AMD FX system builder to consider.

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  • Gigaplex - Thursday, January 22, 2015 - link

    Instead of spending that money on a new CPU and motherboard, spend it on a GPU instead to get better BF4 performance.
  • Phartindust - Thursday, January 29, 2015 - link

    Exactly, use that money towards a R9 290x, 290.
  • tekphnx - Friday, January 23, 2015 - link

    I generally agree, but I would say that the $99 FX-6300 and the $115 OEM FX-8310 would be the exceptions that actually stand out as good values from the red team right now - particularly when paired with a 970 board and boosted with a moderate overclock into the ~4.5 ghz range, these chips offer more value vs. the similarly-priced i3 series, albeit with higher power consumption and lacking an upgrade path.
  • rafaelluik - Tuesday, February 24, 2015 - link

    What more value? Haswell i3 beats even FX 8350 in 99% of games and beats the FX9590 in 90% of them!
  • TeXWiller - Thursday, January 22, 2015 - link

    I took the upgrade dive as due to a offering on 125W fx8370. As I run only at stock speeds, my experience might not be relevant to you. The single module max turbo takes little less power than the 95W thuban with turbo and is faster with modern software, marginally slower on very old test software. I sometimes still launch UT2k4 and the speed improvement is significant. A software 4k 60Hz video playback got 70% improvement. Reflecting this, I wouldn't go near anything slower than the models running at least 4GHz base speed as an upgrade.
  • duploxxx - Thursday, January 22, 2015 - link

    looking at figures and benchmarking you are right. but when you look a bit further on general platforms single gpu its not that big difference at all and some even none existing. with examples like 85-95 fps you won't even notice the difference if you would run on ore another.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/8427/amd-fx-8370e-cp...
  • Penti - Thursday, January 22, 2015 - link

    Does it matter? AMD has intentionally not released new BD-products or updated chipsets for non-APU and server products. They are not counting on selling broken Bulldozers. They have put their resources on the new architectures instead. You can continue to use an AMD-system if your demands aren't too high, new stuff will come there just isn't any sense buying one today. Buying AMD graphics might not be an easy sell these days either, but R9-290 is still decent and new stuff will come hopefully with HDMI 2.0 support and all that.
  • piroroadkill - Friday, January 23, 2015 - link

    " the IPC improvements from Phenom II to current FX chips is marginal at best."

    I thought it was actually the reverse. I definitely recall seeing the old high end Phenom II X6 outpeform the new Bulldozer chips when they first hit.

    Yep: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-r...
  • ShieTar - Friday, January 23, 2015 - link

    Sure, but there is a difference in IPC between "When Bulldozer first hit" and "current FX":

    http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1280?vs=700
  • Phartindust - Thursday, January 29, 2015 - link

    The difference is larger than you think:

    http://anandtech.com/bench/product/102?vs=697

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