Civilization V

Our final game, Civilization 5, gives us an interesting look at things that other RTSes cannot match, with a much weaker focus on shading in the game world, and a much greater focus on creating the geometry needed to bring such a world to life. In doing so it uses a slew of DirectX 11 technologies, including tessellation for said geometry, driver command lists for reducing CPU overhead, and compute shaders for on-the-fly texture decompression.

Civilization V - 2560x1600 - Maximum Quality + 4xMSAA

Civilization V - 1920x1200 - Maximum Quality + 4xMSAA

Civilization V - 1680x1050 - Maximum Quality + 4xMSAA

Remember when NVIDIA used to sweep AMD in Civ V? Times have certainly changed in the last year, that’s for sure. It only seems appropriate that we’re ending on what’s largely a tie. At 2560 the GTX 680 does have a 4% lead over the 7970, however the 7970 reclaims it’s lead at the last possible moment at 1920. At this point we’ve seen the full spectrum of results, from the GTX 680 losing badly to winning handily, and everything in between.

On a final note, it’s interesting to see that the GTX 680 really only manages to improve on the GTX 580’s performance at 2560. At 1920 the lead is only 8%, and at 1680 we’re just CPU limited. Haswell can’t get here soon enough.

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  • chizow - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    Nvidia let AMD off the hook by productizing a mid-range GK104 ASIC as their flagship SKU and pricing it at $500.

    Its a great part no doubt and beats AMD in every metric, but as the article stated, its still going to be the smallest increase in price:performance that we've seen since 9800GTX.

    Overall 28nm has been a huge disappointment so far in terms of performance increase over previous generations at the same price points, I guess we will have to wait for 28nm BigK to get that true high-end increase you'd expect from a smaller process node and new GPU arch.
  • B-Unit1701 - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    'Off the hook'? LMAO they released what they had. They are already months late, the only other option would have been to just not release a card this generation, would THAT have made you happier?
  • chizow - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    No, what would have made me happier from both Nvidia and AMD would be to follow their own historical price:performance metrics.

    Instead, we have AMD first trying to pass an overall unimpressive Tahiti part as a high-end flagship at $550+ followed by Nvidia following suit by pricing their mid-range ASIC as a $500 part.

    28nm has been a big disappointment so far, as we have the smallest increase in price:performance in any generation or process shrink since the 9800GTX.
  • CeriseCogburn - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    With AMD GF foundry failures TSMC is stoked to the gills. We're not going to get the prices you want for performance for another 6 months or so when production is freed up with TSMC's ongoing 2B expansion.
    You ought to include real inflation as well which is as we all know far higher than the socialist government figures that are suppressed so their automatic payout increases are lessened.
    Be disappointed, a valid point, there are extenuating factors.
  • xrror - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    exactly. I completely understand why Nvidia is charging $500 for their mid-range part, but it still sucks.

    AMD also... I get why the 6000 series was gimped (it was originally supposed to be 32nm, and that fell through) but 7000 series... maybe that can be explained by moving to a new arch with GCN.

    Regardless... disappointing. Well actually it's dissapointing that you must pay $500+ to get a card that /might/ give you a fresh gaming experience over the $350 card you bought last generation.

    Unless AMD can pull a 8000 gen card out of their arse with drivers that work (i'm not optimistic) then you can bet if/when "full Kepler" comes out it will be $800+
  • CeriseCogburn - Friday, March 23, 2012 - link

    Charlie D with his $299 leak, the only source, has made everyone think the 1core top card in the world was going to be released $150 cheaper than the current top 1core card in the world.
    He must still be laughing hard at semi-accurate.
  • chizow - Friday, March 23, 2012 - link

    It wasn't Charlie's leak, it was the combined evidence of ~300mm^2 size, transistor count, mid-range specs, ASIC designation, and leaked GTX 670Ti pics also leading people to the conclusion this part was originally meant to be priced in that $250-$350 range.

    Obviously GK104 performed better than expected, coupled with Tahiti being weaker than expected, resulting in what we see today: an exceptionally performing mid-range ASIC being SKU'd as an overpriced flagship part at premium pricing.
  • CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - link

    Sorry I don't buy any of it. It's a "new architecture", if we take Charlie's leak, everything fits but the price, and every price has been $499 going on 4X in a row at least.
  • chizow - Friday, March 23, 2012 - link

    I agree, but honestly I don't even think AMD can compete at this point. Nvidia has beaten AMD at its own game soundly (small die, power efficient strategy, and done it with their 2nd best ASIC.

    Now they're free to make the slightly faster, power-hungry GPGPU monster GPU with as much TDP as they like without having to hear about it being worst than AMD's tree-hugging specs.
  • Sabresiberian - Friday, March 23, 2012 - link

    Nvidia releasing their new architecture a few months after AMD released theirs does not make them late. Nvidia's schedule hasn't been the same as AMD's for several years now.

    And, what's AMD's answer to Big Kepler going to be? They lost today to Nvidia's mid-line chip, they will lose big time when Big Kepler comes out. By the time they catch up, Maxwell will be breathing down their necks.

    ;)

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