The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Prior to the launch of our new benchmark suite, we wanted to include The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, which is easily the most popular RPG of 2011. However as any Skyrim player can tell you, Skyrim’s performance is CPU-bound to a ridiculous degree. With the release of the 1.4 patch and the high resolution texture pack this has finally been relieved to the point where GPUs once again matter, particularly when we’re working with high resolutions and less than high-end GPUs. As such, we're now including it in our test suite.

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - 2560x1600 - Ultra Quality + 4xMSAA/16xAF

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - 1920x1200 - Very High Quality + 4xMSAA/16xAF

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - 1680x1050 - High Quality + 4xMSAA/16xAF

Skyrim presents us with an interesting scenario. At anything less than 2560 we’re CPU limited well before we’re GPU limited, and yet even though we’re CPU limited NVIDIA manages to take a clear lead while the 680 still finds room to push to the top. For whatever the reason NVIDIA would appear to have significantly less driver overhead here, or at the very least a CPU limited Skyrim interacts with NVIDIA’s drivers better than it does AMD’s.

In any case 2560 does move away from being CPU limited, but it’s not entirely clear whether the difference we’re seeing here is solely due to GPU performance, or if we’re still CPU limited in some fashion. Regardless of the reason the GTX 680 has a 10% lead on the 7970 here.

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  • chizow - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    Nvidia let AMD off the hook by productizing a mid-range GK104 ASIC as their flagship SKU and pricing it at $500.

    Its a great part no doubt and beats AMD in every metric, but as the article stated, its still going to be the smallest increase in price:performance that we've seen since 9800GTX.

    Overall 28nm has been a huge disappointment so far in terms of performance increase over previous generations at the same price points, I guess we will have to wait for 28nm BigK to get that true high-end increase you'd expect from a smaller process node and new GPU arch.
  • B-Unit1701 - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    'Off the hook'? LMAO they released what they had. They are already months late, the only other option would have been to just not release a card this generation, would THAT have made you happier?
  • chizow - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    No, what would have made me happier from both Nvidia and AMD would be to follow their own historical price:performance metrics.

    Instead, we have AMD first trying to pass an overall unimpressive Tahiti part as a high-end flagship at $550+ followed by Nvidia following suit by pricing their mid-range ASIC as a $500 part.

    28nm has been a big disappointment so far, as we have the smallest increase in price:performance in any generation or process shrink since the 9800GTX.
  • CeriseCogburn - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    With AMD GF foundry failures TSMC is stoked to the gills. We're not going to get the prices you want for performance for another 6 months or so when production is freed up with TSMC's ongoing 2B expansion.
    You ought to include real inflation as well which is as we all know far higher than the socialist government figures that are suppressed so their automatic payout increases are lessened.
    Be disappointed, a valid point, there are extenuating factors.
  • xrror - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    exactly. I completely understand why Nvidia is charging $500 for their mid-range part, but it still sucks.

    AMD also... I get why the 6000 series was gimped (it was originally supposed to be 32nm, and that fell through) but 7000 series... maybe that can be explained by moving to a new arch with GCN.

    Regardless... disappointing. Well actually it's dissapointing that you must pay $500+ to get a card that /might/ give you a fresh gaming experience over the $350 card you bought last generation.

    Unless AMD can pull a 8000 gen card out of their arse with drivers that work (i'm not optimistic) then you can bet if/when "full Kepler" comes out it will be $800+
  • CeriseCogburn - Friday, March 23, 2012 - link

    Charlie D with his $299 leak, the only source, has made everyone think the 1core top card in the world was going to be released $150 cheaper than the current top 1core card in the world.
    He must still be laughing hard at semi-accurate.
  • chizow - Friday, March 23, 2012 - link

    It wasn't Charlie's leak, it was the combined evidence of ~300mm^2 size, transistor count, mid-range specs, ASIC designation, and leaked GTX 670Ti pics also leading people to the conclusion this part was originally meant to be priced in that $250-$350 range.

    Obviously GK104 performed better than expected, coupled with Tahiti being weaker than expected, resulting in what we see today: an exceptionally performing mid-range ASIC being SKU'd as an overpriced flagship part at premium pricing.
  • CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - link

    Sorry I don't buy any of it. It's a "new architecture", if we take Charlie's leak, everything fits but the price, and every price has been $499 going on 4X in a row at least.
  • chizow - Friday, March 23, 2012 - link

    I agree, but honestly I don't even think AMD can compete at this point. Nvidia has beaten AMD at its own game soundly (small die, power efficient strategy, and done it with their 2nd best ASIC.

    Now they're free to make the slightly faster, power-hungry GPGPU monster GPU with as much TDP as they like without having to hear about it being worst than AMD's tree-hugging specs.
  • Sabresiberian - Friday, March 23, 2012 - link

    Nvidia releasing their new architecture a few months after AMD released theirs does not make them late. Nvidia's schedule hasn't been the same as AMD's for several years now.

    And, what's AMD's answer to Big Kepler going to be? They lost today to Nvidia's mid-line chip, they will lose big time when Big Kepler comes out. By the time they catch up, Maxwell will be breathing down their necks.

    ;)

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