Four years ago AMD did the unthinkable: it announced the 5.4 billion dollar acquisition of ATI in a combination of cash and stock. What followed was a handful of very difficult years for AMD, an upward swing for ATI and the eventual spinoff of AMD’s manufacturing facilities to GlobalFoundries in order to remain profitable and competitive.

In the years post acquisition, many criticized AMD for blowing a lot of money on ATI and having little to show for it. Even I felt that for $5.4 billion AMD could’ve put together its own competent graphics and chipset teams.

Despite the protest and sideline evaluations, good has come from the acquisition. The most noticeable is the fact that AMD’s chipset business is the strongest it has ever been. AMD branded chipsets and integrated graphics are actually very good. And later this year, AMD will ship its first Fusion APUs (single die CPU/GPU): Ontario using Bobcat cores and an AMD GPU. Ontario will be the first tangible example of direct AMD/ATI collaboration since the acquisition.

Just as we’re about to see results from the acquisition AMD is announcing that it will retire the ATI brand later this year. Save those boxes guys, soon you won’t see an ATI logo on any product sold in the market.

The motivation behind the decision to retire the ATI brand comes from AMD’s own internal research. Unfortunately AMD isn’t sharing the details of this research, just the three major findings from it:

1) AMD brand preference triples when the person surveyed is aware of the ATI-AMD merger.
2) The AMD brand is viewed as stronger than ATI when compared to graphics competitors (presumably NVIDIA).
3) The Radeon and Fire Pro brands themselves (without ATI being attached to them) are very high as is.

The second point is really the justification for all of this. If AMD’s internal research is to be believed, AMD vs. NVIDIA is better from a marketing standpoint than ATI vs. NVIDIA. Honestly, AMD’s research seems believable. AMD has always seemed like a stronger brand to me than ATI. There’s little room for ego in business (despite it being flexed all too often) and I don’t believe AMD would hurt its marketing simply to satisfy any AMD executives - the research makes sense.

Meanwhile the third point is the realization that there are very few product lines with the ATI brand left. ATI's chipset operations were quickly absorbed in to AMD and given appropriate naming, while ATI's consumer electronics products such as their Digital TV division have been sold to other companies. Radeon and FirePro are the only two ATI product lines left, and both are strong brands on their own.

The brand switch also reflects some internal changes at AMD. Many important ATI employees have been relocated to AMD's base of operations in Austin, Texas in order to help with Liano, Ontario, and AMD's future Fusion products. So the line between AMD and ATI has been further blurring for some time.

The brand switch will start late this year, I’d guess in Q4 with Ontario and a new GPU release. AMD (and NVIDIA) originally had GPU designs for the 32nm process node however extensive teething problems with 40nm and 32nm forced TSMC to cancel the node and move directly to 28nm. This cancellation required both companies to redesign their parts to work within existing 40nm processes and move their original plans out to coincide with 28nm in 2011. As a result we will see an incremental update to the Radeon HD 5000 series at the end of this year, but don’t expect the sort of performance boost we got with the 5800 vs. 4800. This upcoming hardware will probably carry the AMD Radeon HD 6000 series brand. All existing hardware will continue to carry the ATI brand.

To go along with the new brand we get new logos. If OEMs want to display a badge without the AMD brand, there’s an alternative for that as well:

AMD states the AMD-less logos are purely at the request of OEMs who sell systems with Intel CPUs and AMD GPUs. I suspect Intel’s logo program may have some stipulations on being used adjacent to a sticker with an AMD logo on it, although AMD told me it was purely at the request of the OEMs trying to avoid confusion.

The other major change is AMD’s brand simplification at the retail level. Last year AMD introduced a new platform brand called Vision. If you buy a PC with all AMD components (CPU, chipset and GPU) it can carry a Vision logo (similar to Intel’s Centrino brand). There are four categories of Vision support all with increasing hardware requirements: Vision, Vision Premium, Vision Ultimate and Vision Black. The idea is that if you buy a standard Vision PC you’ll have a good entry level machine, but buying up the stack grants you additional capabilities and performance (e.g. Blu-ray playback, web cam support, discrete GPUs, multicore CPUs etc...). We’ve explained it all in greater detail here.

Starting next year, AMD’s Vision badge will be the only CPU brand you see on retail desktops/notebooks. You’ll still get Radeon/Fire Pro badges on systems that use those parts, but you’ll no longer see a Phenom II, Athlon II, Turion or Sempron logo on Vision systems. Instead you’ll see what CPU is inside on the little card that sits next to the system at your local retailer.

I suspect this will last until AMD introduces Bulldozer, at which point it’ll probably be very eager to build up its brand - assuming performance its is competitive.

Final Words

Retiring the ATI brand comes at an interesting time in the microprocessor market. Graphics is becoming much more important, but to date we have very few examples outside of 3D games as good consumer applications for powerful GPUs. AMD views this as the perfect time to consolidate its brands before the CPU/GPU line gets more blurry.

AMD also pointed out that its market share has been on a steady climb over the past few years. According to Mercury Research, AMD’s discrete GPUs climbed from ~33% marketshare at the end of 2007 to 51% last quarter. AMD has executed unusually well on the GPU side and NVIDIA has had some very difficult years in the process, both of which are responsible for AMD’s climb. The ATI name will go out on a high note.


AMD Discrete GPU Marketshare, Source: Mercury Research

If all goes well with AMD’s two exciting new CPU architectures next year, the brand will only get stronger going forward. Bobcat could do very well in today’s netbook/thin and light notebook form factors and Bulldozer may mark a return to competition in the server and high end desktop markets.

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  • Wellsoul2 - Monday, August 30, 2010 - link

    The whole Vision thing seems dumb.
    Now they can be as obfuscating and misleading as Intel with Core which I guess is the idea.
    Cue "Vision Thing" by The Sisters of Mercy.
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  • Wrathbin - Monday, August 30, 2010 - link

    This actually might be a brilliant move, everyone knows AMD cannot compete with Intels marketing but if they keep staying ahead in graphics people will come to know the AMD brand more, "Hey hun, AMD, you know the ones that made that good graphics card in our computer now sell CPU's, they must be good,lets get one" Reply
  • fire400 - Monday, August 30, 2010 - link

    Thank goodness the logos are still red. Reply
  • Edison5do - Monday, August 30, 2010 - link

    in the beginin a didnt like it but...!! whatever.!! the ONLY thing i would say its.!! PLEASE JUST KEEP GOING WITH THE SAME QUALITY, AND BEING WORRIED FOR THE MAINSTREAM AND/OR BUTGET..... "PLEASE" Reply
  • Mr Perfect - Monday, August 30, 2010 - link

    I'm glad to see some maturity here at Anandtech, both in the original article and the comments. Another site that I frequent posted rumors of this news last Monday and both the author and the commentators acted uncharacteristically poorly. Reply
  • Etern205 - Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - link

    From BernardP
    "In other news, following its acquisition of Porsche earlier this year, Volkswagen AG has decided to get rid of the superfluous Porsche brand, in order to emphasize the importance of the Volkswagen brand.

    Consequently, starting with the 2011 model year, the Porsche Turbo Carrera will be known as the Volkswagen Turbo Carrera."
    Reply
  • rjlew - Saturday, September 04, 2010 - link

    Being a computer gamer and hobbyist since the 8088 and a CGA (before EGA and VGA) card, I have had my fair share of graphics boards (Orchid Fahrenheit 1280+ VLB, Tseng ET4000 PCI, etc. to name a few).

    My first ATI card was an ATI Xpert@Work card with 4MB of RAM. This got me by on my Pentium 2 -233 MHz on Win 95 OSR2 at 1024x768 res with 32 bit color and allowed me to almost watch DVD movies. I then paired it with a 3DFx Voodoo 2 card for Unreal Tournament (GLide, not Direct X). Good Times Baby!!

    This then got replaced with a Voodoo 3 card with 16 MB RAM and a Celeron 400 replacement SEC cpu from Evergreen, same mobo and case on Win 98 Second Edition.

    I then bumped this again with a NVidia GF3 Ti 200 Gainward card and an AMD Duron 900 on an EPox mobo, same case.

    Today, I still have this same case with an ATI 9600 AIW OC'd from 400 to 500 MHz with a MSI KT333 mobo and an AMD Athlon 2600+. I have since retired this computer but have it as a standby Win XP machine.

    Since then I have moved on to the Athlon 64 3000+ and Opteron 170 with the Nvidia 6800GT (became wife's machine). Currently I am with my Core 2 Quad Q6600 @3.2 with the Nvidia 9800GTX (BFG) in a newer Antec 900 chassis. Although my last few graphics boards have been Nvidia (largely attributed to my timing on new builds), there were fond memories with the ATI boards and LAN parties. The ATI 9600 AIW came with the freebie HL2 coupon, which got me into CS:Source, etc. from Valve, who were big on ATI cards. It has been a fun ride going between the ATI and Nvidia graphics choices, always a tug of war and always great for the consumer. The 3DMark benchmarkers will surely miss the ATI name.

    RIP ATI brand, you will be missed. AMD, don't let us down. I love what the 4850, 5850, Eyefinity, and thousands of stream processors have done for PC gaming as a whole.
    Reply
  • Psyrecx - Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - link

    I like the ATi brand name more, I'd personally rather see them retire the AMD name. Lately it's been a black mark on the market. I still think this even though I still buy their CPU's. Hell I think I would have ordered my 1090T even quicker if it had been called an ATi 1090T... Reply
  • ReaM - Sunday, November 28, 2010 - link

    Bad,

    because it is NOT true, that AMD seems like a stronger brand than ATI.

    Take last three years into account: AMD CPUs lost to Intel's in every market niche: mobile, desktop and server. Especially in mobile market, which became more important in the second half of 2010 as there was a shift from desktop to mobile computing, both power savers like netbooks and performance monsters like C2Duo chips (I still own the 2,2Ghz Macbook Pro from 2007) have been dominating the markit until today.

    ATI, on the other side, came with its 4000 series very far and with its 5000 series made NVIDIA lag behind for six month. Its introduction and use in iMacs until present day is another happy story.

    If ATI were a separate public traded company, its stock would have advanced MORE than AMD since the downturn of the market. Intel's stock looks much healthier than AMD's.
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  • Travis piper - Thursday, December 02, 2010 - link

    I think the way of Ati and Intel being mixed is good, but Amd is also good, I don't think Amd has done much with graphics and that's why I feel there new graphics cards are worse with smaller gpu's, I compared it to an older version and the older version was faster when running the same games. There's no room for me to complain however because Amd did buy out Ati from what I heard. Reply

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