AMD Inadvertently Reveals Ryzen 3 1300 & 1200 Details
by Ryan Smith on June 29, 2017 9:10 AM EST
If you were paying close attention to this morning’s announcement of AMD’s new Ryzen Pro SKUs, then you likely noticed something interesting: the non-X PRO chips all have the same performance specifications as their standard consumer counterparts. Specifically, both of the non-X PRO SKUs with existing Ryzen 5 & 7 counterparts have the same core counts, clockspeeds, and TDPs. And for the final 2 Ryzen PRO 3 SKUS? Well, AMD has inadvertently shown their hand here when it comes to forthcoming Ryzen 3.
With the release of the Ryzen PRO 3 specifications, AMD has now confirmed what we’ve been suspecting for the Ryzen 3 specifications for a while now. Ryzen 3 is a quad-core CPU without SMT, so we’re looking at just 4 threads instead of 8, albeit 4 threads without any of the resource contention SMT can sometimes cause. On which matter, it’s worth pointing out that AMD has already previously commented that Ryzen 3 will use the same die as Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7, so we’re looking at 4 cores distributed over 2 CCXs, like the Ryzen 5 1400 & 1500X.
| AMD Ryzen 5 & 3 SKUs | |||||||
| Cores/ Threads |
Base/ Turbo |
XFR | L3 | TDP | Cost | Cooler | |
| Ryzen 5 1600X | 6/12 | 3.6/4.0 | +100 | 16 MB | 95 W | $249 | - |
| Ryzen 5 1600 | 6/12 | 3.2/3.6 | +100 | 16 MB | 65 W | $219 | Spire |
| Ryzen 5 1500X | 4/8 | 3.5/3.7 | +200 | 16 MB | 65 W | $189 | Spire |
| Ryzen 5 1400 | 4/8 | 3.2/3.4 | +50 | 8 MB | 65 W | $169 | Stealth |
| Ryzen 3 1300* | 4/4 | 3.5/3.7 | TBD | 8 MB | 65 W | TBD | - |
| Ryzen 3 1200* | 4/4 | 3.1/3.4 | TBD | 8 MB | 65 W | TBD | - |
Similarly, AMD’s reveal indicates that Ryzen 3 will have the same cache structure as the lowest-end Ryzen 5, the 1400. That means just half of the chip’s total 16MB of L3 cache is enabled. However each core still retains its full 512KB of L2 cache. Finally, this inadvertent reveal also confirms that TDPs for the lowest-end members of the Ryzen family will stick with the same 65W TDP as all but the highest-performance Ryzen chips.
Of course, it should be noted here that AMD’s accidental reveal doesn’t mean that the 1300 & 1200 will be the only Ryzen 3 chips we’ll see. Just like the Ryzen 5 and 7 only had a couple of PRO counterparts, it’s likely that the story will be the same for the Ryzen 3 series. In particular, Ian suspects a Ryzen 3 1300X will show up, but we shall see in due time…
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mpbello - Monday, July 10, 2017 - link
No, it is not. An office CPU without iGPU is not perfect by any means. That for me is the biggest issue with Ryzen, still no APU and the cheapest GPUs in the market are too expensive and power hungry to make Ryzen a competitive CPU for office work.For office work, the Pentium G4560 is the absolute king. Pair it with 8+GB DDR4 and an SSD and you have the perfect office computer right there.
Gasaraki88 - Thursday, June 29, 2017 - link
I see what you mean. It makes sense. Clocks are too low for the R3ddriver - Thursday, June 29, 2017 - link
They are not meant to compete with 4770k, intel superclocks because it doesn't really have anything more to offer the mainstream. Those chips will compete with i3, and they will kick ass in their market segment. There are some high clocked i3s that will have better single threaded performance, but aside from a few corner cases where absolute performance doesn't really matter, they will be destroyed in everything else.Also, R3 will likely overclock, so you will still be able to push them to 3.8-4 GHz, unlike the i3, where only one SKU is unlocked and at a price that makes it a rather bad deal.
Alexvrb - Friday, June 30, 2017 - link
Agreed. That unlocked i3 is priced too close to Ryzen 5.mpbello - Monday, July 10, 2017 - link
What is kicking the ass of i3 is the Pentium G4560, not Ryzen R3.I think the R3 could take market from i5s for people interested in quad cores on a budget.
Spunjji - Friday, June 30, 2017 - link
They're not going to get any higher without unreasonable power draw. Zen just doesn't clock that high.The target market you seem to be suggesting for these chips is already served nicely by the 5 series.
shendxx - Thursday, June 29, 2017 - link
are people on this earth dont realize that Kabylake is third aka 3 gen 14nm from intel which is More optimized than Zen, Ryzen is first gen from AMD,, dont people think this is bad because 10 - 15 FPS different in game scenario.. i dont know what people think,,butteredmuffins - Thursday, June 29, 2017 - link
shendxx well first off its 2017 and if you take a look at cpu utilization on a multi core processor, at any given moment almost all cores are being used regardless of what you're doing. I can live without a few frames on a few old games. I wonder how long Intel fanboys will keep hanging on to the "but single core performance!!"jkh - Thursday, July 27, 2017 - link
I suspect they'll keep saying it as long as it equates to better gaming performance, i.e. the foreseeable future.shendxx - Thursday, June 29, 2017 - link
are people on this earth dont realize that Kabylake is third aka 3 gen 14nm from intel which is More optimized than Zen, Ryzen is first gen from AMD,, dont people think this is bad because 10 - 15 FPS different in game scenario.. i dont know what people think,,