Announcement Three: Skylake-X's New L3 Cache Architecture

(AKA I Like Big Cache and I Cannot Lie)

SKU madness aside, there's more to this launch than just the number of cores at what price. Deviating somewhat from their usual pattern, Intel has made some interesting changes to several elements of Skylake-X that are worth discussing. Next is how Intel is implementing the per-core cache.

In previous generations of HEDT processors (as well as the Xeon processors), Intel implemented an three stage cache before hitting main memory. The L1 and L2 caches were private to each core and inclusive, while the L3 cache was a last-level cache covering all cores and that also being inclusive. This, at a high level, means that any data in L2 is duplicated in L3, such that if a cache line is evicted into L2 it will still be present in the L3 if it is needed, rather than requiring a trip all the way out to DRAM. The sizes of the memory are important as well: with an inclusive L2 to L3 the L3 cache is usually several multiplies of the L2 in order to store all the L2 data plus some more for an L3. Intel typically had 256 kilobytes of L2 cache per core, and anywhere between 1.5MB to 3.75MB of L3 per core, which gave both caches plenty of room and performance. It is worth noting at this point that L2 cache is closer to the logic of the core, and space is at a premium.

With Skylake-X, this cache arrangement changes. When Skylake-S was originally launched, we noted that the L2 cache had a lower associativity as it allowed for more modularity, and this is that principle in action. Skylake-X processors will have their private L2 cache increased from 256 KB to 1 MB, a four-fold increase. This comes at the expense of the L3 cache, which is reduced from ~2.5MB/core to 1.375MB/core.

With such a large L2 cache, the L2 to L3 connection is no longer inclusive and now ‘non-inclusive’. Intel is using this terminology rather than ‘exclusive’ or ‘fully-exclusive’, as the L3 will still have some of the L3 features that aren’t present in a victim cache, such as prefetching. What this will mean however is more work for snooping, and keeping track of where cache lines are. Cores will snoop other cores’ L2 to find updated data with the DRAM as a backup (which may be out of date). In previous generations the L3 cache was always a backup, but now this changes.

The good element of this design is that a larger L2 will increase the hit-rate and decrease the miss-rate. Depending on the level of associativity (which has not been disclosed yet, at least not in the basic slide decks), a general rule I have heard is that a double of cache size decreases the miss rate by the sqrt(2), and is liable for a 3-5% IPC uplift in a regular workflow. Thus here’s a conundrum for you: if the L2 has a factor 2 better hit rate, leading to an 8-13% IPC increase, it’s not the same performance as Skylake-S. It may be the same microarchitecture outside the caches, but we get a situation where performance will differ.

Fundamental Realisation: Skylake-S IPC and Skylake-X IPC will be different.

This is something that fundamentally requires in-depth testing. Combine this with the change in the L3 cache, and it is hard to predict the outcome without being a silicon design expert. I am not one of those, but it's something I want to look into as we approach the actual Skylake-X launch.

More things to note on the cache structure. There are many ‘ways’ to do it, one of which I imagined initially is a partitioned cache strategy. The cache layout could be the same as previous generations, but partitions of the L3 were designated L2. This makes life difficult, because then you have a partition of the L2 at the same latency of the L3, and that brings a lot of headaches if the L2 latency has a wide variation. This method would be easy for silicon layout, but hard to implement. Looking at the HCC silicon representation in our slide-deck, it’s clear that there is no fundamental L3 covering all the cores – each core has its partition. That being the case, we now have an L2 at approximately the same size as the L3, at least per core. Given these two points, I fully suspect that Intel is running a physical L2 at 1MB, which will give the design the high hit-rate and consistent low-latency it needs. This will be one feather in the cap for Intel.

Announcement Two: High Core Count Skylake-X Processors Announcement Four: The Other Stuff (AVX-512, Favored Core)
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  • FwFred - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link

    My company paid for a dual 10 core Ivy Bridge Xeon workstation for me and every one of my coworkers. We'd save money moving to the 18 core i9s on the next round.
  • PrazVT - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link

    I totally whiffed on this announcement. I JUST ordered a 6800k / mobo / etc that are coming in tomorrow. Wanted to upgrade from my Core i7 970 system (a GPU upgrade from my old GTX 770 SLI setup later). Presumably I should return the cpu and mobo immediately and wait for the 7800x?
  • Notmyusualid - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link

    It depends if you got a good deal on it...

    The 6800K will feel like night & day compared to your Gen 1 proc.

    But I feel another 20 to 30% IPC is heading our way...

    The question remains, was it a good deal? If the answer was yes, then continue.

    Also, can you wait? This will be half a year away (I expect). If the answer is no, then continue with with you have again.

    You can push that 6800K hard, reward it with a liquid cooler. Even if its just a Closed Loop affair, get a 240mm.
  • Lolimaster - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link

    Maybe simply go for the Ryzen 7 1700X?

    Way better cpu than the 7800X for the same money.
  • AGS3 - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link

    i9 is just a branding scheme to combat the Ryzen pressure. The i9's will just be the high end desktop parts that are Xeon's with ECC removed and repackaged. It is nothing different than prior high-end desktops which were labeled i7 with an X at the end. They do not have integrated graphics.
  • GeoffreyA - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link

    It's a bit like the Pentium 4 Emergency Edition.
  • GeoffreyA - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link

    Ryzen is very much like a new Athlon or Athlon 64.
  • Ro_Ja - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link

    AMD's got them by the balls. It's just a matter of how much profit will Intel get with these new product.
  • SaturnusDK - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link

    A late comment and no one will read it but as I see it even if Intel gets the 12-18 cores models out the door which still remains to be seen.

    Then it will still most likely be hampered by an ineffective inter-core connect. I didn't hear it mentioned anywhere but if the Xeon processors are anything to go by then the high core count models will be realized by stitching two cores together with the interface used between sockets. And as anyone who has ever used a dual Xeon workstation knows that two Xeons aren't anywhere near twice as fast as a single Xeon. The increase is 50% better on average.

    Furthermore it looks to be hampered by a very low TDP. So it looks like while Intel might win the core count battle based on a paper launched product, the performance crown might actually still be in the hands of AMD. It'll certainly be extremely close in performance. Price however is likely to be twice as high as a comparable AMD product.

    Also, 44 PCI-E lanes only for the top range products? And it caps at 44 lanes? What the hell are you thinking Intel? That's just crippling any hope of ever being competitive with AMD in this market segment you might have had.
  • FwFred - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link

    If you think the penalty paid by the dual ring bus in the HCC die is too high, you really won't like the AMD solution.

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