Announcement Three: Skylake-X's New L3 Cache Architecture

(AKA I Like Big Cache and I Cannot Lie)

SKU madness aside, there's more to this launch than just the number of cores at what price. Deviating somewhat from their usual pattern, Intel has made some interesting changes to several elements of Skylake-X that are worth discussing. Next is how Intel is implementing the per-core cache.

In previous generations of HEDT processors (as well as the Xeon processors), Intel implemented an three stage cache before hitting main memory. The L1 and L2 caches were private to each core and inclusive, while the L3 cache was a last-level cache covering all cores and that also being inclusive. This, at a high level, means that any data in L2 is duplicated in L3, such that if a cache line is evicted into L2 it will still be present in the L3 if it is needed, rather than requiring a trip all the way out to DRAM. The sizes of the memory are important as well: with an inclusive L2 to L3 the L3 cache is usually several multiplies of the L2 in order to store all the L2 data plus some more for an L3. Intel typically had 256 kilobytes of L2 cache per core, and anywhere between 1.5MB to 3.75MB of L3 per core, which gave both caches plenty of room and performance. It is worth noting at this point that L2 cache is closer to the logic of the core, and space is at a premium.

With Skylake-X, this cache arrangement changes. When Skylake-S was originally launched, we noted that the L2 cache had a lower associativity as it allowed for more modularity, and this is that principle in action. Skylake-X processors will have their private L2 cache increased from 256 KB to 1 MB, a four-fold increase. This comes at the expense of the L3 cache, which is reduced from ~2.5MB/core to 1.375MB/core.

With such a large L2 cache, the L2 to L3 connection is no longer inclusive and now ‘non-inclusive’. Intel is using this terminology rather than ‘exclusive’ or ‘fully-exclusive’, as the L3 will still have some of the L3 features that aren’t present in a victim cache, such as prefetching. What this will mean however is more work for snooping, and keeping track of where cache lines are. Cores will snoop other cores’ L2 to find updated data with the DRAM as a backup (which may be out of date). In previous generations the L3 cache was always a backup, but now this changes.

The good element of this design is that a larger L2 will increase the hit-rate and decrease the miss-rate. Depending on the level of associativity (which has not been disclosed yet, at least not in the basic slide decks), a general rule I have heard is that a double of cache size decreases the miss rate by the sqrt(2), and is liable for a 3-5% IPC uplift in a regular workflow. Thus here’s a conundrum for you: if the L2 has a factor 2 better hit rate, leading to an 8-13% IPC increase, it’s not the same performance as Skylake-S. It may be the same microarchitecture outside the caches, but we get a situation where performance will differ.

Fundamental Realisation: Skylake-S IPC and Skylake-X IPC will be different.

This is something that fundamentally requires in-depth testing. Combine this with the change in the L3 cache, and it is hard to predict the outcome without being a silicon design expert. I am not one of those, but it's something I want to look into as we approach the actual Skylake-X launch.

More things to note on the cache structure. There are many ‘ways’ to do it, one of which I imagined initially is a partitioned cache strategy. The cache layout could be the same as previous generations, but partitions of the L3 were designated L2. This makes life difficult, because then you have a partition of the L2 at the same latency of the L3, and that brings a lot of headaches if the L2 latency has a wide variation. This method would be easy for silicon layout, but hard to implement. Looking at the HCC silicon representation in our slide-deck, it’s clear that there is no fundamental L3 covering all the cores – each core has its partition. That being the case, we now have an L2 at approximately the same size as the L3, at least per core. Given these two points, I fully suspect that Intel is running a physical L2 at 1MB, which will give the design the high hit-rate and consistent low-latency it needs. This will be one feather in the cap for Intel.

Announcement Two: High Core Count Skylake-X Processors Announcement Four: The Other Stuff (AVX-512, Favored Core)
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  • LuckyWhale - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    It's so unconsciously idiotic for tech articles to quote price of products as $1999. What the hell are you doing? Hello?!!! You are not Intel's marketing department.
  • catavalon21 - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Idiotic? Hardly. I don't believe Ian was encouraging buying these, but he is providing insight on something ... unexpected? We (this community) have long criticized Intel's lack of much interesting for a long time. This is interesting. It may not be useful to many of us, but it's very interesting.

    Complaining about a $2000 processor with these specs? Highest end Intel enthusiast processors have often been expensive. Several enthusiast Extreme processors from a decade ago weighed in anywhere from $1000 and up at the time, with performance that blew chunks compared to this beast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkfield_(microproc...

    If you think $1999 is too expensive for AT to preview, I wonder what you thought about the $5000 Dell monitor covered a while back. http://www.anandtech.com/show/11220/dells-32-inch-...
  • catavalon21 - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    If I could only copy and paste working links, then we'd have something.
  • wrkingclass_hero - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Why is this announcement being reported on, but Threadripper never was? I even did a double check on this site and searched Threadripper and this is the only article that popped up.
  • catavalon21 - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    That's a big Twinkie.
  • Maleorderbride - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link

    Because AMD was literally on stage when you posted that. The article is up now.
  • ThreeDee912 - Wednesday, May 31, 2017 - link

    Uhm... I guess you need better searching skills.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/11482/amd-cpu-update...
  • Meteor2 - Saturday, June 3, 2017 - link

    Threadripper was announced weeks ago, at the AMD Financial Analysts' day. And indeed Anandtech did not report it. https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2017/05/amd-ryze...

    It's hard to conclude anything other than that Purch has received/will receive a payment from Intel in return for only reporting Intel stories for a period.
  • BillR - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    I wouldn't get too excited, Amdahl's Law is asserting itself and you get diminishing returns by adding CPUs. It all comes down to the apps and how well and how many CPUs they can use effectively.
  • boozed - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Was hoping for some more powerful LGA1151 CPUs

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