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VIA K8T800 PRO: PCI/AGP Lock and 1000 HyperTransport for Athlon 64
VIA K8T800 PRO: PCI/AGP Lock and 1000 HyperTransport for Athlon 64
Date: May 6th, 2004
Topic: CPU & Chipset
Manufacturer: VIA
Author: Wesley Fink
 
 


When the Opteron was introduced about a year ago, VIA and nVidia began their battle for the best chipset and motherboards for the AMD Athlon 64. It appeared early on that despite the lower 600 HyperTransport, the nVidia nF3-150 just might win the first round with a PCI/AGP lock, which was missing from the otherwise superior VIA K8T800 chipset. On Socket 754 single-channel boards, nF3 and K8T800 were basically a toss-up in performance, but K8T800 definitely was the better performer on the Socket 940 Dual-Channel platform. Later, when we discovered that the PCI/AGP lock also did not work on most nF3-150 boards, the supposed advantage for nVidia disappeared.

Recently, there have been many changes in the chipsets available for the Athlon 64 family as manufacturers are gearing up for round 2 - the Socket 939 wars. nVidia introduced their upgraded nFoce3-250Gb chipset with 1000HT, working PCI/AGP locks, and a feature set that finally was competitive with the excellent VIA K8T800, or perhaps even better. The K8T800 PRO is VIA's answer as they also gear up for Socket 939. Based on the excellent K8T800 core, the PRO version finally adds a PCI/AGP lock to the VIA features, and HyperTransport is raised to the new 1000 speed that we will see in AMD Athlon 64 Socket 939 processors.

VIA will price the new PRO chipset version exactly the same as the previous non-PRO version. This means that you will quickly see the K8T800 PRO replace the K8T800 in every Athlon 64 configuration - Socket 754, Socket 940, and the new Socket 939. The chipset will be the same in all configurations, meaning 1000 HT and PCI/AGP lock will soon be available even in Socket 754 boards for current Athlon 64 chips that are based on the K8T800 PRO chipset.

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15 Comments - Last by Odeen, 2023 days ago
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No Subject by wicktron, 2025 days ago
weeeeee

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No Subject by wicktron, 2025 days ago
im disappointed that it wasnt compared against nf3-250 boards.

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No Subject by Cygni, 2025 days ago
There arent any Socket 940 boards based on the 250 chipset in the open market right now.

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No Subject by ceefka, 2024 days ago
#2 quite right

Question: Will Firewire suffer from the fact that it is not on-board? Will anything else suffer from the fact that Firewire will then have to be supported with an additional chip?

To stretch the importance of Firewire for the home-user. I believe that a lot of people own MiniDV camera's in and a year or so most analog videocams will be replaced with digital cams. Most of them work best with Firewire. I haven't seen any models that work explicitly with USB 2.0 so far.

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No Subject by bigtoe33, 2024 days ago
Come on guys its the first look at a reference board.Reviews will come with all boards compared etc.

The question you should ask is why abit hasn't implemented the lock on the new pro board they just released?

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No Subject by Klaasman, 2024 days ago
Abit has a board out now but reports are that it does NOT have the AGP/PCI lock working.

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No Subject by Wesley Fink, 2024 days ago
#6 -

PCI/AGP lock is DEFINITELY working on the Reference Board, but I can not yet address whether Abit has implemented the lock or just dropped the PRO chipset in the older design with no changes. I did see the one review in the UK reporting this issue before the VIA review was finished.

We do have the Abit board coming to us for testing and I will report what I find.

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No Subject by Warder45, 2024 days ago
I thought the Pro was going to have a HT speed of 1200?

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No Subject by Jeff7181, 2024 days ago
This is definately a good thing... finally overclockers have a choice between chipsets.

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No Subject by Pumpkinierre, 2024 days ago
You got to 8x252 on the Aopen AK86-L (VIA chipset/Skt754) which didnt have PCI/AGP lock but ratio controlled. Given its an a64/FX chipset (and on top VIA) where AGP/PCI lock has been a matter of controversy, would'nt it have been prudent to have used your PCIgeiger to check the PCI frequencies at the different FSB settings-so that we wont be fooled once again!



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