TRIM Support On the Way?

Several readers wrote me once they received their new 13-inch MacBook Pros and told me that System Profiler lists TRIM support as an option for SSDs on these systems. I confirmed:

This appears to be limited to the new 13-inch MacBook Pro. I tried my 2nd gen unibody 15-inch as well as the new 15-inch i5/i7 model and neither of them have TRIM listed as an option with an SSD installed. It appears that the driver for the GeForce 320M chipset in the new 13-inch MBP supports TRIM at some level.

The OS still incorrectly identifies SSDs with TRIM support as not supporting the instruction, but I get the feeling we're close to having TRIM support in OS X. At which point we'll be even closer to Apple shipping some halfway decent SSDs in their systems. It's taken this long but we're getting there.

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  • cheinonen - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - link

    Why do people treat Apple like they're the only person that uses Foxconn? HP, Dell, and others use them as well. I'm not excusing anything at Foxconn, but to single out Apple as only being able to do this because of who they use for manufacturing, when most other top companies use the same vendor, is ridiculous. Reply
  • james.jwb - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - link

    @jabber

    Your comment pretty much applies to 80% of everything you buy, period. You are living in a bubble and possibly even a hypocrite to get on your high horse about this product, or Foxconn so singularly.

    But hey, it is being heavily talked about at the moment and it is in your face, so good for you for having this fleeting feeling of misplaced superiority that will no doubt disappear just as quickly as the misplaced headlines.
    Reply
  • jabber - Thursday, June 10, 2010 - link

    Fully aware that any electronic device has blood sweat and tears on it so I am fortunate enough to purchase it.

    I have been very aware of this for years.

    However, it's been pretty apparent that many havent been aware of this and seem to wish to keep their heads in the sand so they dont have to feel guilty about it.

    "I dont care what goes on as long as I get my new iPhone upgrade gimme gimme!"

    The suicides at Foxconn are not necessarily Foxconn's fault.

    It's OUR fault!

    Our fault for wanting to only pay the minimum for more and more good such as these Macbooks, motherboards, GPUs etc. etc.

    I just hope from events this past few weeks might make a few people think a little bit more before they purchase their next unnecessary electronic gadget.

    Same goes for cheap, shoes, clothes, jewellry etc.
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  • zorxd - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - link

    95% of mac users don't use their GPU. The Intel GMA HD GPU would have been more than enough for this kind of laptop. The Geforce 320M is too slow for gaming anyways so I don't see the point. Reply
  • jabber - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - link

    Noooo, dont be silly. The Geforce 105M in my Dell is more than enough to play a lot of the games I mess around with such as BF2 and Eve online. Eve plays at high settings and gives around 60fps.

    We dont all play Crysis and Call Of Donkey Modern Warfare 4 whatever.
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  • Ninjahedge - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - link

    Maybe more would if it HAD a GPU to begin with.

    If the current Mac users do not buy their machine to game on (or any other GPU intensive task) because there is no good GPU present, what is to say they will not buy and utilize it if it is included?
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  • KoolAidMan1 - Thursday, June 10, 2010 - link

    Not true, the OS X desktop has always leaned heavily on the GPU. The other thing is OpenCL which shipped with OS 10.6. Apple has to be prepping some major GPU computing in the next version of OS X, especially since it is a part of 10.6.

    I believe this is the "thing" Anand is waiting for, we'll see. It makes sense why Apple would put such a relatively high baseline on their GPUs, otherwise they'd just go with the Arrandale's anemic graphics and call it a day.
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  • bang222 - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - link

    They took away support for jumbo frames in the Broadcom ethernet chip.

    :-(

    Big minus if you tune your NAS.
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  • CharonPDX - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - link

    There's not enough motherboard real estate to include an Arrandale Core i3/i5 CPU plus an NVIDIA discrete GPU like Apple does in the new 15 and 17-inch models.


    Uh, I call bull.

    Apple fit a three-chip solution in the first MacBook Air. Yes, the CPU was on a smaller mount, but it was still a three-chip solution on a microscopic board. If they really wanted to, they could slap a three-chip solution in the 13" MBP.
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  • solipsism - Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - link

    1) The MBA had the CULV C2D and GMA950 or 9400M. That's two!

    2) The MBA is 13" but it also using a SFF chip, has low power and low heat, thereby needs less venting and can use a smaller fan and heatsink.

    3) The MBA has a 1.8" drive, not a 2.5" drive.

    4) The MBA has no optical drive whilst the MB and 13" MBP do.

    — MBA internals: http://s1.guide-images.ifixit.com/igi/WPhHIikf5jBW...
    — MBA MoBo: http://www.ifixit.com/igi/KJJyYGCKwbfhmAJI

    — 13" MBP internals: http://s2.guide-images.ifixit.com/igi/FkpKKrqQlYsg...
    — 13" MBP MoBo: http://s1.guide-images.ifixit.com/igi/XaPYhlwqukef...

    If you're going to call "bull" then i assume that you have detailed info as to where all this extra room is that a Core-i chip + dGPU + additional fan would go in this system.

    it seems to me that the only way they could add the items you think are so easily included which altering the dimensions of the internal space is to reduce the size of the battery (which is still too lower than most people would like it to be at) or remove the optical drive (which oft goes unused, is slow, mote prone to break due to moving parts, and takes up 25% of the internal space). I'm going with the latter.
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