Samsung 245T: LCD Prime

by Jarred Walton on February 7, 2008 1:00 AM EST

Viewing Angles

Viewing angles are one of the specifications where manufacturers' claims bear scrutiny. The basic requirement is that a display has to maintain a 10:1 contrast ratio in order to qualify as "viewable". The reality is that most LCDs are unfit for viewing beyond a 45° angle. The good news is we doubt that most people will view a display from anything more than a 45° angle, and typically a lot less. For that reason, we used our camera to take shots from head-on as well as from the left and right sides at ~30° angles, showing how brightness and contrast ratios change in off-angle viewing. We also took pictures from above and below at ~30° angles. Links to the viewing angle images of previously reviewed LCDs are available for comparison below:

Acer AL2216W
Dell 2405FPW
Dell 2407WFP
Dell 2707WFP
Dell 3007WFP
Gateway FPD2485W
HP LP3065
HP w2207
HP w2408

All it takes is a quick look through the above images to see why we prefer S-IPS and S-PVA over TN panels. Note that we did adjust our camera settings at one point, so some of the earlier pictures may look better than they actually are. The main thing is to look at the drastic difference between TN panels and the other panels. Viewing angles can also become more important with larger display sizes, which is one of the reasons why we see the highest quality panels (S-IPS) used in 30" displays.

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  • alainiala - Friday, February 8, 2008 - link

    I do A LOT of monitor testing at my work because I'm one of a handful of people responsible for setting our enterprise hardware standards. I try to steer our company away from TN-based panels, but sometimes its unavoidable (all but one 22" panel that I'm aware of are TN). I find S-PVA to be acceptable, but the true beauties are the S-IPS monitors. NEC makes some of the best S-IPS monitors around, but they are very pricey. My favorite monitors is undoubtably the NEC 2490WUXi, but you have to be prepared to sell an organ to get one. Not worth it for the average user, but anybody with color-critical apps should take a long hard look at it. I do wish more manufacturers would stick with S-PVA and S-IPS... But alas, the pricepoints demand we all get stuck with TN garbage.
  • Pjotr - Friday, February 8, 2008 - link

    TVA -> PVA
  • JarredWalton - Friday, February 8, 2008 - link

    Fixed, thanks - after writing an article for so many hours, some things start to blur past your eyes. :)
  • uethello - Thursday, February 7, 2008 - link

    The panel being listed as TN is ominous to me. I've been studying monitors hard for about a month (since I found out how much of my money Uncle Sam is giving me). Seems like some manufacturers build monitors with both types of panels. Going for the "Hope" buy, I guess. The person who hears about someone getting a good panel and buying in the hopes of not getting a TN.
  • JarredWalton - Friday, February 8, 2008 - link

    I talked to my contact at Samsung and got this response on the panel:

    "As to your question, the 245T does have an S-PVA panel, which is a far superior technology than TN, not that I need to tell you that. The 245BW uses a TN panel. The proper authorities have been notified and they’re working on fixing [the PDF] immediately. I appreciate you letting me know."

    So no worries - the 245T is an S-PVA panel as reported and as the images show.
  • Dainas - Thursday, February 7, 2008 - link

    ...all manufacturers are seemingly phasing out all mva/pva panels below $650, replacing them with TN at the same pricepoint and no one cares. It surprises me that the reviewers despite not being a big fan of $500+ TN panels, have not noted this plain as day trend.
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, February 7, 2008 - link

    Ummm... did you read my HP w2408 review? I pretty much slammed on that trend and said that IMO the TN panels still suck by comparison. I also praised this LCD for not being a TN panel. How is that "not noting the trend"?
  • Dainas - Thursday, February 7, 2008 - link

    ok, you noted that much :P Except for what amount to closeout deals, we are starved for choice compaired to 6 months ago. Its not just a matter of waiting for things to get back up to swing after the chinese new year. Besides the expensive stalwarts such as this and the dells line, TN is just eating up everything else was :(

    I would expect nothing short of a full blown rant about this, hehe.
  • strikeback03 - Friday, February 8, 2008 - link

    Aside from closeout deals and Black Friday specials and the like, have there ever been 24" LCDs that didn't use TN panels available "cheaply"? Seems that when the 24" LCDs were initially all good panels and all expensive, then as more came out the prices dropped some, then someone started making 24" TN panels and those monitors formed a whole separate price bracket.
  • JarredWalton - Friday, February 8, 2008 - link

    I believe there are some S-PVA 24" panels for around $400-$450. Are they good LCDs, or are they the reject S-PVA panels that couldn't be put in $600 LCDs? I don't know - I'd like to get one to test, but unfortunately the budget LCD companies aren't interested in sending us review samples. Anecdotally, I've heard that while they are usually better than TN panels, they've got other issues - firmware, low build quality, etc.

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