Switch from Intel to AMD on the same motherboard?

ECS’ PF88 Extreme H is another interesting board we happened to encounter at the show.  By default, it is a SiS based Pentium 4 motherboard with two PCI Express x16 slots. 

But note the pink connector in between the two PCI Express x16 slots:

If you remove the jumpers along that connector, the connection between the South and North Bridges is severed and redirected to pink slot.  You can then install an ECS branded upgrade card in the pink slot to convert this Pentium 4 motherboard into:

A Pentium M motherboard:

A Socket-754 Athlon 64/Turion 64 motherboard:

or a Socket-939 motherboard:

The upgrade card features new memory slots, a new socket and a new North Bridge.  How’s that for flexibility? 

There are some limitations to the technology; first and foremost, you are stuck with SiS chipsets.  Secondly, the clock generator is on the actual motherboard itself, and thus the FSB frequencies supported by the board are limited to what the on-board clock gen can support.  In this case, the clock generator can support 800/1066MHz FSBs for Intel platforms, and up to 1GHz Hyper Transport for AMD platforms. 


With the card installed, the on-board CPU socket and North Bridge are no longer used.

Also, whenever you purchase an upgrade card it will come with a new BIOS chip that you will have to install on the motherboard.  There is an unpopulated BIOS socket on the motherboard for this very purpose. 

ECS estimates that the upgrade cards will retail for around $50. 

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  • Waylay00 - Monday, May 30, 2005 - link

    Well if the G70 boards are supposed to be in manufacturer's hands by the 2nd week of June, then when does this mean that they will actually be available for people to buy?
  • Brian23 - Monday, May 30, 2005 - link

    Sorry, I can't count. I ment to say #37.
  • Brian23 - Monday, May 30, 2005 - link

    #36, that's what the gigabit ethernet is for!
  • bob661 - Monday, May 30, 2005 - link

    #36
    Too bad you couldn't store any movies on it.
  • patrick0 - Monday, May 30, 2005 - link

    How about using a SSD for a HTPC?! Now that's silence.
  • bob661 - Monday, May 30, 2005 - link

    The swap file idea is excellent. I think four 512MB sticks would be enough and would run about $160 on Newegg.
  • sprockkets - Monday, May 30, 2005 - link

    Of course if you use Linux it has no problems using the RAM as a HDD as it is; look at Knoppix and DamnSmallLinux, both use the ram as a HDD and DSL can run completely out of the ram. You can also do that with Knoppix if you have at least 1GB of ram.

    But then again, no permanent distro goes to ram soooo...
  • Beenthere - Monday, May 30, 2005 - link

    There simply is no justification for the BTX design. It isn't a good design and it doesn't cool Intel's overheating products sufficiently. It's just a marketing gimmick that the Mobo mfgs. were smart enough to NOT adopt despite arm twisting by Intel. Intel is on there way down and the Mobo mfgs. know it.
  • semo - Monday, May 30, 2005 - link

    solid state storage has been around for some time but not as cheap.

    http://www.hyperos2002.com/
    look for hyperdrive
  • tungtung - Monday, May 30, 2005 - link

    That RAMDISK card is quite interesting although there is a Japanese company that make similar product since 1998 (only for Mac though) ... the idea of being able to use older RAM sticks are also the main thrust for that old product ... but that old product (which I just can't seem to remember what or who makes them) has an external power connector + battery backup.

    It is a nice use for scratch disk / temp drive though.

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