Camera - Low Light Evaluation

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30
[ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ] - [ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ]
OnePlus 6  - [ P20 Pro ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

Switching over to the low-light scenarios, the first scene already again shows the inconsistency of the G7 in deciding on a good exposure. Although the G7 isn’t really alone here and both the G6 and V30 needed help to point out what the main subject is.

Again coming back and doing an apples-to-apples between the G7 and V30 (  vs shots) which have both respectively 1/25s ISO200 and 1/24s ISO400 – I can’t understand how the G7 manages to produce a much noisier picture even though by all means it should have had the clearer shot due to the lower ISO setting. It also continues to blur out details in a much worse manner.

The only positive here is that the HDR processing did manage to produce a quite good result – at least in shot 1.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ] - [ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ] - [ Mate 10 ]
[ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]
OnePlus 6    ]

The next shot we finally see a result in which the G7 doesn’t obviously blur out the details. The result is quite good overall, although the colour temperature is a tad too warm but that’s also something a lot of phones had trouble with in terms of white street lights.

Here it’s also visible that the 1µm pixel pitch sensor is limiting the dynamic range as the larger sensor phones have better shadow definitions throughout the scene.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ] - [ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ]
[ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ]
OnePlus 6  ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

Here’s another shot where the G7 doesn’t apply its super harsh water-colour effect, and I would say it’s for once finally a clear winner overall over the V30. The result is actually extremely competitive with most other flagships – while it loses to some out in dynamic range, the overall combination of the exposure and detail retention is pretty balanced.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ] - [ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ]
[ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ]
OnePlus 6  ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

In this last low-light shot the one thing that is blatantly wrong is the colour temperature – again this is a regression to the V30, but at least it’s not as awfully off as on the G6.

Please note that both G7 shots were shot at the same settings – 1/14s at ISO750, yet the second shot is far worse and this is probably the single best before-and-after in terms of showing what the processing is doing to the capture. The  is the heavily processed one. The phone is attempting to balance out the luminance in the shot but what is happening is it’s also bringing out the noise with it – this is especially visible in the sky.

The compressed rubber turf is naturally porous and here again the G7’s processing just loses all of its texture definition – look at the P20 Pro for the best baseline comparison.

Overall again the G7 regresses in practically every aspect compared to the V30 in this shot.

Extreme Low Light

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ] - [ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ]
[ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ]
OnePlus 6  ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

The V30s introduced the “Low-light shot” mode and was backported to the V30. The G7 includes it as well and under a certain threshold (if enabled in the settings) it switches over to LLS mode. This is a 2x2 pixel binning mode with a quarter of the resolution, but drastically increases light sensitivity.

The extreme-low-light scenario is essentially there to see how the phones perform under very dark conditions where you wouldn’t normally expect to capture much. Recent development in computational photography and special capture modes such as pixel-binning on the camera sensor have recently allowed phones to finally make this a somewhat viable scenario for newer smartphones.

The G7 here produces a very bright result which does beat most other phones. Looking at the EXIF data both the V30 and G7 did a 1/7s exposure, but the V30 doesn’t have any ISO entry while the G7 says it’s at ISO2250. Usually when the EXIF data doesn’t get populated it’s because the resulting image went through heavy processing, and there’s a notable difference between the G7 and V30 again as the latter, while being a bit darker, produced a much clearer and sharper image.

Low Light Conclusion

Unfortunately, while the G7 did fare a bit better in some low-light scenarios, it overall still represented a regression over the V30.

There’s just no real excuse for LG here as all it had to do to maintain camera quality was to port over the existing camera calibration and processing from the V30 to serve as a baseline. Instead it looks like LG started from scratch, and somewhere in the process they forgot to finish the work. I’ve heard from a lot of vendors that the camera is usually the last thing that’s developed during the bring-up of a new phone platform, but to have such a regression over a previous generation phone in a company's line-up is something that I haven’t really seen before.

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  • melgross - Friday, August 10, 2018 - link

    Interestingbthatvwhile they include theciphones in a few benchmarks, they aren’t mentioned in the article even once.
  • lucam - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    iPad Pro review anytime soon? Or You guys have given up on testing tablets?
  • collegsd - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link


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  • ados_cz - Friday, August 10, 2018 - link

    I got new G6 week ago and was really disappointed with the jpeg processing and softness of the ultrawide angle module. Then someone noted that Google Pixel camera app was ported to other snapdragon devices and gets much better results. You can still see that it is not perfect if you pixel-peep, but I am in peace with it now when using the ported app.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/d4K6LH4oazGmboBK6
  • abufrejoval - Saturday, August 11, 2018 - link

    Must be quite a sight, seeing you walk around Luxemburg taking pictures with dozens of phones...
  • Andrei Frumusanu - Saturday, August 11, 2018 - link

    It's more of an issue of having enough pockets...
  • chadhumm - Saturday, August 11, 2018 - link

    One comment. I loved LG's but I had to return the LGG7 the worst phone Ive ever had in regards to reception. Makes all the bells and whistles worthless. This in many areas city and rural. Traded for the S9 it is much better but not as good as the Motorola z force that I was replacing. Too bad because I had good luck with the g2 and g3
  • nikon133 - Sunday, August 12, 2018 - link

    I'm reasonably happy with G7. Got it for my work phone as it is much cheaper than S9+ here in NZ... $1000 vs $1500.

    Camera is my only real disappointment - yes it does watercolor greenery. That said, I am a bit of a camera freak, and there is no camera phone that really satisfies me - whenever I plan to shoot, I will have at least RX100 on me, if not dSLR. This makes me dislike G7 camera even more - but, at the same time, it makes me not care much as well, since I usually don't depend on phone cameras. Down-sampled to ~2MP (1080p full screen), photos are usable. This is really where my phone cameras' expectations end, regardless of model.

    Oddly, screen color hasn't really impacted me, albeit I have moved to this phone from Nexus 5X and Lumia 950 XL... both should have decent screens, if memory serves. Might be because I use phone under different light and ever-changing conditions are preventing me from really having an issue with screen accuracy. Screen readability is quite good, even under sun, and resolution is a pleasure. I am wearing glasses for distance and they don't work well up close, so I usually look at the phone screen over the glasses, and, in result, bring phone very close to my face... where resolution shows more than from "normal" reading distance.

    Battery holds well in my scenario. Even at the begging when phone use was higher than average - downloading and trying apps, setting accounts, running initial updates etc., I was not draining more than 60% between morning and evening. Everyday use it is 30 - 40%. Basically I can do full 2 days, and with wireless chargers at my office desk and bedside, absolutely no problems here... that said, I don't play games on phone.

    Overall? Happy, so far. I'm aware of compromises, but price difference more than justifies them, imho. I am also not a big fan of Samsung's curved screen - it does nook nice but it also does expose screen more, judging from my colleagues' experiences with S7 Edge and S8.
  • jvl - Sunday, August 12, 2018 - link

    But...does it Loop Good®?!? Or will we have to wait until we find out?
  • Great_Scott - Thursday, August 16, 2018 - link

    What this review did better than anything else was convince me to get a OnePlus6. It has the best camera at mid/high light levels and the (very well done) LCD screen of the G7 is inefficient at the lowest light levels (which is where I set my phone the vast majority of the time). The smaller-sized battery isn't great either.

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