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The Radeon HD 4850 & 4870: AMD Wins at $199 and $299
The Radeon HD 4850 & 4870: AMD Wins at $199 and $299
Date: June 25th, 2008
Topic: Video Card
Manufacturer: AMD
Author: Anand Lal Shimpi & Derek Wilson
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Power Consumption

NVIDIA's idle power optimizations do a great job of keeping their very power hungry parts sitting pretty when in 2D mode. Many people I know just leave their computers on all day and generally playing games 24 hours a day is not that great for the health. Idle power is important, especially as energy costs rise, and taking steps to ensure that less power is drawn when less power is needed is a great direction to move in. AMD's 4870 hardware is less power friendly, but 4850 is pretty well balanced at idle.

Moving on to load power.

These numbers are peak power draw experienced over multiple runs of 3dmark vantage's third feature test (pixel shaders). This test heavily loads the GPU while being very light on the rest of the system so that we can get as clear a picture of relative GPU power draw as possible. Playing games will incur much higher system level power draw as the CPU, memory, drives and other hardware may also start to hit their own peak power draw at the same time. 4850 and 4870 CrossFire both require large and stable PSUs in order to play actual games.  

Clearly the 4870 is a power junky posting the second highest peak power of any card (second only to NVIDIA's GTX 280). While a single 4870 draws more power than the 9800 GX2, quad SLI does peak higher than 4870 crossfire. 4850 power draw is on par with its competitors, but 4850 crossfire does seem to have an advantage in power draw over the 9800 GTX+.

Heat and Noise

These cards get way too hot. I keep burning my hands when I try to swap them out, and Anand seems to enjoy using recently tested 4800 series cards as space heaters. We didn't look at heat data for this article, but our 4850 tests show that things get toasty. And the 4870 gets hugely hot.

The fans are kind of quiet most of the time, but some added noise for less system heat might be a good trade off. Even if it's load, making the rest of a system incredibly hot isn't really the right way to go as other fans will need to work harder and/or components might start to fail.

The noise level of the 4850 fan is alright, but when the 4870 spins up I tend to glance out the window to make sure a jet isn't just about to fly into the building. It's hugely loud at load, but it doesn't get there fast and it doesn't stay there long. It seems AMD favored cooling things down quick and then returning to quiet running.

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very good by weaksideblitz, 513 days ago
this is a welcome development although im only buying a 4850 :)

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RE: very good by Lifted, 513 days ago
Ditto. If I can get a 4850 for ~$150 or so, that's what I'm doing as well.

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RE: very good by Clauzii, 513 days ago
That leaves 50 for a better cooler ;)

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RE: very good by Lifted, 513 days ago
Is there any reason the first pages of benchmarks have SLI setups included in the charts, but you wait until the end of the article to add the CF? I'd think it would make the most sense to either include both from the start or hold both until the end.

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RE: very good by Anand Lal Shimpi, 513 days ago
The original idea was to format it like the 4850 preview, keep things simple early on but offer SLI/CF graphs later in the article for those who wanted them.

It looks like in the mad rush to get things done it didn't work out that way, I'll see if it's possible to clean it all up but right now we've got a lot of other minor touchups to do first :)

Take care,
Anand

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RE: very good by wilkinb, 513 days ago
Then include SLI for the 280... let the consumer care about what the value is or isn't, we all value different things. Provide the costs and the performance (SLI) please.

Its make this very incomplete to not have included SLI for the 280/260, I for one will more then likely get 2 x GTX280's not all of us worry about a few $$, but if the CF 4870's are that good, then I want to know as I don’t care about the brand and will go with the best performance.

Can you please include them soon so we can make our own judgements on what's good or not?

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RE: very good by Anand Lal Shimpi, 513 days ago
I've added the GTX 280 SLI numbers to all of the bar charts in the Multi-GPU section, enjoy :)

Note, I didn't add them to the line graphs simply because we didn't have data for 280 SLI at lower resolutions. It only really makes sense at 2560 x 1600 anyways so this shouldn't be an issue.

Take care,
Anand

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RE: very good by wilkinb, 513 days ago
thank you :)

I really appreciate the response

Now I just need work out what to order.

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RE: very good by paydirt, 512 days ago
9800 GTX is $200. I wonder what price the GTX+ debuts at.

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RE: very good by TechLuster, 513 days ago
Anand,

I really like your idea of "keeping things simple early on" by only including configurations that us mere mortals can afford at first (say, all single-GPU configs plus "reasonable" multi-GPU configs less than ~$400 total), and then including numbers for ultra high-end multi-GPU configs at the end (mainly just for completeness and also for us to drool over--I doubt too many people can afford more than one $650 card!).

Anyway, great job on the review as always. I think you and Derek should get some well-deserved rest now!

-TL

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