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NVIDIA Analyst Day: Jen-sun Goes to the Mat With Intel
NVIDIA Analyst Day: Jen-sun Goes to the Mat With Intel
Date: April 11th, 2008
Topic: Video Card
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Author: Derek Wilson
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Introduction

Hot on the heels of the launch of their 9800 series products, NVIDIA is holding a Financial Analyst Day. These are generally not filled with the normal technical glitz and glitter an Editors Day has, but the announcements and material covered are no less important to NVIDIA as a company. NVIDIA has an unusually large institutional ownership rate at 84% (versus 79% and 66% for AMD and Intel respectively) so the company holds these Analyst Days in part to keep its institutional investors happy and well informed about the company’s progress.

As far as we members of the press are concerned however, Analyst Days are a valuable chance to learn about the GPU market, and anything that could impact the bottom line can help us understand NVIDIA's direction, motivation, and even the reasoning behind some of the engineering decisions they make. Today saw a lot of posturing for battles to come, and we were not disappointed.

Waking up the Beast

Most of the morning was dedicated to NVIDIA taking some time to do a little PR damage control. They've stepped out to defend themselves against the doom and gloom statements of other players in the industry. With Intel posturing for a move into the graphics market and proclaiming the downfall of rasterization and discrete graphics at the same time, NVIDIA certainly has reason to address the matter.

And we aren't talking about some standard press release boiler plate filled with fluffy marketing speak. This time, Jen-sun Huang, the man himself, stepped out front and addressed some of the concerns others in the industry have put forth. And he was out for blood. We don't get the chance to hear from Jen-sun too often, so when he speaks, we are more than happy to listen.

One of the first things that Jen-sun addressed (though he didn't spend much time on it) is the assessment by Intel's Pat Gelsinger that rasterization is not scalable and won't suit future demands. He largely just threw this statement out as "wrong and pointless to argue about," but the aggregate of the arguments made over the day all sort of relate back to this. The bottom line seems more like Intel's current approach to graphics can't scale fast enough to meet the demands of games in the future, but that speaks nothing about NVIDIA and AMD's solution which are at least one if not two orders of magnitude faster than Intel graphics right now. In fact, at one point Jen-sun said: "if the work that you do is not good enough … Moore's law is your enemy."

This seems as good a time as any to address the tone of the morning. Jen-sun was very aggressive in his rebuke of the statements made against his company. Many times he talked about how inappropriate it is for larger companies to pick on smaller ones through the use of deceptive marketing tactics (ed: Intel is 11.5 times as large as NVIDIA by market cap). To such attacks, he says "It's just not right!" and "we've been taking it, every single fricking day… enough is enough!" NVIDIA, Jen-sun says, must rely on the truth to carry its message in the absence of massive volumes of marketing dollars.

Certainly, things can be true even if they paint a picture slightly different than reality, but for the most part what Jen-sun said made a lot of sense. Of course, it mostly addresses reality as it is today and doesn't speculate about what may be when Larabee hits the scene or if Intel decides to really go after the discrete graphics market. And rightly enough, Jen-sun points out that many of Intel's comments serve not only to spread doubt about the viability of NVIDIA, but will have the effect of awakening the hearts and minds of one of the most tenaciously competitive companies in computing. Let's see how that works out for them.

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44 Comments - Last by pringlep0, 561 days ago
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Intel by Genx87, 669 days ago
I dont see how a company who has 0% market share above integrated graphics is going to motivate or get devs to write game engines to do ray tracing vs rasterization. John Carmack had an interview about this 2 months ago and he wasnt impressed with what Intel has and wasnt convinced Ray Tracing is better at everything than rasterization. He felt it would be a hybrid situation at best and Intel is dreaming.

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RE: Intel by zsdersw, 669 days ago
Prognosticators, no matter how well qualified or respected, are very often wrong.

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RE: Intel by UNHchabo, 669 days ago
You only think this is true because the ones who are wrong are often the only ones you remember.

Example:
"Spam will be a thing of the past in two years' time." -Bill Gates, 2004

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RE: Intel by zsdersw, 668 days ago
Umm, no. Predicting the future is rarely entirely accurate or precise, no matter how much of an expert you may be. Prognosticators who are experts are usually wrong as often as they're right. Experts are just as fallible as anyone else, if not more.

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RE: Intel by Lonyo, 669 days ago
Intel are arguably a long term company.
It may be that no one can see anything happening in the near future, but give it time and we will see things shifting I am sure.
They are in it for the long haul, but they also want to show they are making short term steps to get there.

The Atom is by no means a finished platform, nor does it operate where Intel are aiming for, but it's a start on the road.

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RE: Intel by Conroe, 669 days ago
If Intel could integrate a GPU that actually could run games what do you think would happen to nvidia? He sounds a little frightened to me.

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RE: Intel by jtleon, 669 days ago
No doubt Jen-sun is very afraid. Intel could buy his entire engineering team - should they so choose.

However, such fear is a vital ingredient (always has been) to generate true innovation. We should be worried if Jen-sun is not afraid.

Regards,
jtleon

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Market Strategy Brain Phart! by jtleon, 669 days ago
Why is it in Jen-sun's best interest to draw attention to Intel's failed IGP?

Consider the end user experience - I tried using Intel's IGP - and became so horribly frustrated that I abandoned the IGP altogether in disgust! As a competitor, Jen-sun cannot buy such a powerful motivator to drive customers to nVidia (or ATI), right?

Jen-sun should be praising Intel for their IGP, and encourage them to continue the "good" work for nVidia! Don't ridicule Intel - Don't dare them to beat you.

Jen-sun mis-managed this Financial Meeting and cannot retract his indignation - He has challenged Intel to a Dual, and he cannot win!

Regards,
jtleon

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RE: Market Strategy Brain Phart! by Griswold, 669 days ago
"He has challenged Intel to a Dual, and he cannot win!"

A dual what? Dual-core maybe?

Its spelled d-u-e-l.

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RE: Market Strategy Brain Phart! by jtleon, 669 days ago
Thanks Griswold...saw the mistake as I hit the Post button - unfortunately this site does not offer an "edit" after the fact!

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