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NVIDIA’s 7800GS to Debut Soon
NVIDIA’s 7800GS to Debut Soon
Date: October 30th, 2005
Topic: Video Card
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Author: Tuan Nguyen
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It's been roughly a quarter or so since the availability of NVIDIA's 7800GTX and already speculation is circulating online that NVIDIA is preparing a new launch during the month of November. While we can confirm that NVIDIA will indeed be announcing something new, we can't say exactly when they will do it, but it'll occur in November.

What we have discovered, however, thanks to some clever users, is that NVIDIA may potentially announce two products: the GeForce 7800GS and a 512MB version of the current GeForce 7800GTX. From the evidence, we believe that NVIDIA plans to introduce a new entry-level model and to accompany the top-end 7800GTX 512MB to give consumers more choices, both in features and in price.

Our industry sources claim that NVIDIA is positioning the new GS somewhere below the current 7800GT. Traditionally, NVIDIA's products that carry the GT suffix tend to be a mid-priced product that carries a significant portion of the top performing variant. GT products are also well received by the community as good value for the money. However, there is a large majority of users out there who don't play the most recent games frequently and spend most of their computer time doing other things that don't demand leading-edge graphics performance. We can only assume now that GS products are aimed at a more mainstream audience - and it's a good thing.

Most GeForce 7800GT cards fall right in the $300 price range right now, making them more competitive than GeForce 6800GT cards. However, the disparity between GeForce 6800 (non-ultra, non-GT) and 6800GT leave the entire $200 to $300 market wide open.

Information about the new product - as well as many other products - is actually embedded in NVIDIA's current released drivers. Using a common developer's tool such as an executable disassembler, one can browse through the information that resides in the DLL file responsible for the customized NVIDIA display control panel.

To do this:

Download the latest ForceWare 81.87 BETA drivers from NVIDIA (a link to the driver is available directly from NVIDIA's website). Regardless of whether or not you have a NVIDIA based card, this will extract the drivers into a folder called "NVIDIA". Finally, you'll want to download and install a program called PE Explorer.

Open a command prompt by clicking on your Start menu > Run > type " cmd" and go to the location of the NvCpl.dl_ file. Once there, type "expand NvCpl.dl_ -r". This will create the actual nvcpl.dll binary library.

Launch PE Explorer and open nvcpl.dll. After it has loaded successfully, click Tools > Disassembler. After a few moments, a new window will open with a long list of strings. Perform a search for 7800_GS and you should see the following:


Click to enlarge.

Interestingly enough, there are quite a few other mystery products in the DLL, including GeForce 6150, 6250 and 6700. We've already heard rumors of most of these cards as well, but we do not have enough information at this time to comment on them.

Now that the existence of the new product is confirmed, the only thing left to do is to wait for NVIDIA's launch. Rest assured, once we have the full products in our labs, you will be the first to know of its details.

Another website has done something similar to this as well.
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11 Comments - Last by tfranzese, 1480 days ago
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by Kccdx2, 1482 days ago
Haha, nice find. Never woulda thought to look there!

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Hmm a third tier product on the 7800 line. by coldpower27, 1482 days ago
This could be the 6800 Vanilla equivalent of the 7800 Series.

7800 GS hmmmm....

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RE: Hmm a third tier product on the 7800 line. by Shinei, 1481 days ago
Considering that a "vanilla" 7800 would still be a significant amount of graphics power, I'd be interested in dropping :200bux: for one, especially if it came in AGP for my ancient rig.

****TOTALLY UNFOUNDED SPECULATION ON 7800GS*****
20 pipes with a core clock of 400MHz, 256MB RAM @ 1.0GHz

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RE: Hmm a third tier product on the 7800 line. by plewis00, 1481 days ago
How is that a speculation on the 7800GS? That's the same stock spec as a 7800GT.

If anything I'd imagine 7800GS would be a 16-pipe 7-series GPU so that it remains competitive with 6800 chips, but allows for chips with 2 failed quads (i.e. 4 working/good ones) and/or vertex shaders.

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RE: Hmm a third tier product on the 7800 line. by Shinei, 1480 days ago
Is it? I thought the 7800GT was set up like the 7800GTX with a lower clock speed... My mistake.
I don't think going to 16 pipes would be a good idea though, since they'd need to lower the price dramatically to cut into the 6800 sales and convert existing 6800 users--I know a couple of 6800GT owners who aren't planning to upgrade for at least another 18 months, so the 7800GS had better be one amazing package for a cheap price point to grab those types of customers.

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RE: Hmm a third tier product on the 7800 line. by plewis00, 1480 days ago
The X800GT was a way of clearing excess X800 (R420?) cores which had damaged quads (perhaps), so I imagine a high-clock 16-pipe 7-series GPU is a reasonable bet for something better than the 6-series but nicely priced and below the GT and GTX. I guess we'll see on that front.

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Clever but... by plewis00, 1482 days ago
Nice find but there are tons of unknown/never seen graphics cards listed in the supported list here:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/81.85_winxp_32_supported.html

I suppose the 7800GS (not on this list) is the most interesting to mainstream users, but there are also 6800 XE and XT variants which could be good if they ever materialise. Are you sure the 7800GS isn't OEM-only?

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by DigitalFreak, 1481 days ago
The GeForce 6150 is probably the onboard video for the 6100/6150 motherboards.

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by xbdestroya, 1481 days ago
Exactly, the 6150 is definitely just the onboard for the upgraded 6100 video.

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by JarredWalton, 1481 days ago
True, but 6250 and 6700 are new to me.

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