AMD Budget

Leaving the entry-level sector behind, and with a budget of around $800, our options increase significantly. Prices have dropped again and we could either build a cheaper budget system or add significant new capabilities to the systems. With the recent release of the $99 ATI HD 4770, we made the choice to provide even more performance and capabilities at the $800 price point. Our goal is to provide more performance in the upper entry segment than any OEM can provide at the same price.

This is the first time we have included a discrete GPU into an $800 system, and it isn't just any GPU. Most are finding the ATI HD 4770 to be a very satisfying graphics card with playable frame rates in almost every current game at resolutions below the 30" monitor level. Entry and midrange buyers don't normally own 30" monitors, so for them the 4770 is the ideal performance GPU. Those who don't game but still want more graphics capabilities can substitute the ATI HD 4670 for every reference to the 4770 and expect to save $40 to $50 after rebates on the $99 price tag of the 4770. The 4670 is perfect for any graphics task short of demanding gaming, and it will even satisfy casual gamers who like to play the Sims for example.

Both budget systems with 4770 graphics are just over $800 complete, with the basic box under $550. We balanced the assembled system for a wide variety of computing tasks, but the 4770 tilts it toward gaming and graphics manipulation. Substitute a 4670 GPU, save $40 to $50, and you have a much better than average entry system that can still handle casual gaming. Look at pre-built OEM systems in this price range, and you're likely to find anemic HD 4350 or GeForce 9300 parts - about 25% of the performance of the 4770! While we generally consider PC gaming rigs to begin at the lower midrange bracket, the ATI Radeon HD 4770 has changed that thinking. With a true HD monitor and the 4770, a gamer can find satisfaction with these $800 entry-level computers.

AMD Budget PC
Hardware Component Price
Processor AMD Phenom II X3 720 BE Deneb
(Tri-core 2.8GHz, 45nm, 3x512KB L2, 6MB shared L3)
$139
Cooling CPU Retail HSF -
Video Sapphire Radeon HD 4770 512MB 100277L $100
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3
($70 less $10 Rebate)
$60
Memory OCZ Platinum Model OCZ2P10664GK
2x2GB 5-5-5 DDR2-1066 ($63 less $25 Rebate)
$38
Hard Drive WD Caviar Green WD6400AACS 640GB 16MB Cache $65
Optical Drive Sony Optiarc Model AD-7240S-OB 24X DVDRW SATA $24
Audio On-Board -
Case Cooler Master Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Mid Tower $40
Power Supply BFG Tech LS Series LS-550 550W SLI/CrossFire Ready
80 Plus Certified ($80 less $20 Rebate)
$60
Base System Total $526
Display ASUS VH222H 21.5" 5ms Widescreen 16:9 LCD (1920x1080)
($165 less $10 rebate)
$155
Speakers Cyber Acoustics CA3090WB 2.1 Gaming Speakers $16
Input Microsoft CA9-00001 PS/2 Keyboard and Optical Mouse $17
Operating System Microsoft Vista Home Premium SP1 (for System Builders) $99
Complete System Bottom Line $813

While the GPU is the most important factor in gaming performance, the CPU is also a factor - particularly at or below 1280x1024. To make sure the CPU is not a bottleneck now or in the near future, a Black Edition Phenom II X3 is our CPU choice. The Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition has an unlocked multiplier should you choose to overclock, which makes overclocking as simple as it gets. It has three cores rated at 2.8GHz, with 3x512KB L2 cache, and 6MB shared L3 cache. As a 45nm Phenom II, it is also a dynamite overclocker. In fact it is the same CPU we have recommended in our Phenom II Overclocking Guide.

The first board that came to mind when we decided to build a budget system with the HD 4770 video card was the Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3. This board is a perfect match for the Phenom II 720 BE or 710 processors and those looking to maximize their performance on a limited budget. This board targets the budget overclocker and features the AMD 770 IOH and SB700 Southbridge. Gigabyte offers support for the latest AM2+ and AM3 CPU processors with BIOS F5 while overclocking has been a treat (260+ HT ref clocks) with our Phenom II or Athlon X2 processors. This board features Gigabyte's Ultra Durable 3 Classic technology, 16GB of DDR2 memory support, Realtek ALC 888 HD audio codec, Realtek RTL8111C Gigabit LAN, six 3Gb/s ports capable of RAID 0/1/10, a single IDE port, twelve USB 2.0 ports, and IEEE 1394a support. The layout features one PCI-E x16 slots, four PCI-E x1 slots, and two PCI slots. This board has performed almost flawlessly to date (S3 resume was a bit touchy until the F5 BIOS) and is a genuine bargain at the current price.

We've chosen OCZ Platinum 4GB DDR2-1066 (PC2-8500) with fast 5-5-5 timings in a 4GB kit for $38 after a $25 rebate. This is certainly a value price, but this is not value memory. It is high performance DDR2-1066 memory from a top memory supplier. The extra 1066 speed lets you run your memory at a faster speed or provide reserves for overclocking the CPU. OCZ is a great memory choice, but there are many memory options at great prices today if you shop around. Quality DDR2-800 and DDR2-1066 RAM from Corsair, OCZ, G.Skill, Mushkin, Patriot, and GeIL are available at any of the major online retailers. Just be sure to look for RAM with the better timings if you can afford it.

The kicker in both the AMD and Intel budget systems is the ATI Radeon 4770 video card. If you missed it, you can see the numbers in our ATI HD 4770 launch review. ATI's first 40nm GPU is a great performer at a bargain price of just $99. To quote the results from the review "The Radeon HD 4770 always outperforms the older 4830 and sometimes gives the 4850 a run for its money. As for the competition, the 4770 comes out on top in the games we tested. The more expensive GTS 250 leads in Call of Duty World at War, while the 4770 blows the doors off everything in Age of Conan. In the other benchmarks, they come out pretty close with the 4770 generally ahead, but the clincher is Far Cry 2 performance which shows the Radeon HD 4770 leading the GTS 250 fairly well in a heavy hitting graphics engine."

Those results should explain why we were so interested in including the ATI 4770 in our Budget systems. With this $99 video card and a competent AMD or Intel entry system, even gamers should be satisfied with the performance of an $800 computer.

The remaining components are minor upgrades from our entry systems. The hard drive is a little larger with a 640GB Western Digital instead of 500GB. The cost is just $10 more. The DVD burner remains the same fast Sony 24X.

The case receives an upgrade with the selection of the Cooler Master Elite 330 and our AnandTech Gold Editors' Choice BFG Tech LS-550 power supply. The BFG has had a $20 rebate for several months that reduces the final cost to $60. The BFG 550W is a great power supply, but you could save a few dollars here with an OCZ, Corsair, or PC Power and Cooling PSU as they are often on rebate in recent months. It all depends on timing of your system purchase.

The LCD display was an easy choice with the 1080p ASUS 21.5" LCD for just $155 after a $10 rebate. A 19201080 TN panel with a 3-year parts and labor warranty from a major computer manufacturer is about as good as you'll find in this price range. If you prefer a larger display, you can find 23.5" LCDs starting at $250. Another interesting option is the Samsung 2343BWX, a 23" LCD with a native resolution of 2048x1152 on a 16:9 panel. Priced at $220, it's the highest resolution you're likely to see before moving to dual-link DVI. If you need to save a few dollars a lower resolution 19" like the $99 Acer 1680x1050 widescreen chosen in the entry systems will save some money. Any of these LCDs will work for most users, but we haven't discussed image quality.

Honestly, the LCD market has been quite disappointing during the past year. Virtually everyone is moving to TN panels now, because they're inexpensive. One of the better panels we tested was an AU Optronics S-MVA panel in the 24" BenQ FP241VW, but besides being expensive (over $800 at launch) it's also discontinued, and there were other aspects of the LCD we didn't like, for example the base stand and sluggish OSD controls, plus some problems with non-native resolutions. However, the viewing angles and lack of image lag were huge pluses. If you can find a 24" LCD with an AU Optronics S-MVA panel at a reasonable price, you might want to get it while you can.

The fact is, outside of LCDs costing $400 or more, pretty much everything is now TN panels. HP does offer the LP2275w (22" S-PVA) and the LP2475w (24" S-IPS), but both cost a lot more than similar sized TN panels, and some users report issues with the LP2275w. If you just want a decent, inexpensive 22" to 24" LCD, we personally haven't seen a lot to differentiate one brand from another. That's not surprising, since there are only a handful of actual panel manufacturers, so outside of the base panel the main differences will be in features. If you're worried about color accuracy or viewing angles, you shouldn't get a TN panel; if you're not concerned with getting the "best" image and colors, you probably won't notice the difference between "great" and "lousy" panels.

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  • Hrel - Thursday, May 28, 2009 - link

    Why spend 100 dollars on that card when you can get the GTS250 for 10 DOLLARS MORE?!! That's right, just 10 bucks. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...
    Or, if you run your monitor at a stupidly high resolution for some reason, you can get the 1GB version for only 125. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...

    Not sure if you guys at anandtech were just unaware of this or if you really are bias against Nvidia, but the GTS250 is WAY more card for the extra 10 bucks.
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  • dndavis57 - Saturday, May 23, 2009 - link

    I've been planning something along the lines of your AMD Budget Build, to replace my deceased Athlon 64-3000 rig, so the Builder's Guide is quite timely.

    Question: If you're not going to use a mobo with ACC, would the Phenom II X3 710 be the value choice or is the additional speed of the 720 worth the slight ($20) price difference?

    I already have a Corsair TX650W PSU, since the $80 price AMIR was too good to pass up. I had planned to reuse my original Antec Sonata, but probably will get a Sonata Elite instead ($89 at my local Micro Center). Does anyone know of any problems with this combo?

    I'm thinking of swapping the mobo for Gigabyte's AM3 version, since it's only $30 more and DDR3 isn't much more than DDR2 these days. I know DDR3 doesn't make much difference on the Phenom II platform, but it may be a reasonable upgrade even if AMD can't make any changes to the existing architecture or BIOS to take better advantage of it. I just have to figure out how tight my budget truly is, since I need to build now.

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  • Lummox - Sunday, May 24, 2009 - link

    I am building something like this already. Maximum bang for buck is the BIOSTAR TFORCE TA790GX 128M, It has just about everything including two PCI-E x16 2.0 Slot (CFX x8), firewire, DVI, HDMI, VGA and the 790 and 750 chip sets. Also you can play most games with the eye candy turned off.

    When combined with a X2 7850 it is $129 AR of $10, which I got. This is $3 cheaper than the Entry Level, with better processor and MB.

    When combined with a X2 Phenom II X3 720 it is $199 AR of $10. This is same price as the Budget Level, with better MB.

    When combined with a Phenom II X4 940 it is $250 AR of $10.

    When combined with a Phenom II X4 955 it is $305 AR of $10. and it is on the list of compatible MBs

    All with free shipping. This is same price as the Budget Level, with better MB. The only limit On games is a Power Supply big enough for your eventual graphics card.

    I you build the entry level all you need is a new PS and faster GPU, to turn it into a gaming machine. For memory, You can either buy 1066 now, upgrade later, or leave it at 600. There is not a dramatic difference between 800 and 1066.

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  • pashbe1 - Friday, May 22, 2009 - link

    Let me just start by saying Anandtech has been my hardware education. I have a question for you experts though. I spend 8-10 hours a day on 3d CAD and Rendering and maybe 15 hours a week gaming. My current rig, dont laugh, is an old dual Xeon workstation. I would really like to replace it with the mid-level AMD system that you describe in this article. Here is my concern, every ATi gpu that I have ever had to work with has had problems with the hardware acceleration in CAD. If the acceleration is maxed, the cursor prompts become a garbled box. If I set the acceleration one step down, I get a stutter in when moving around in 3d, and obviously when gaming I get a gimped cursor. So I feel compelled to stick with Nvidia, even if I have to pay a premium. Have the newer ATi cards fixed this problem? What combination of parts can I put together to come up with the performance, overclock ability, and base system price of the mid level AMD system described in this article that uses a good Nvidia card? Reply
  • Hrel - Thursday, May 28, 2009 - link

    you should get the GTS250 from Nividia, it only costs $110 after rebate; and it's MORE card for the money. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...

    Here's the 1GB version, since that may be helpful with CAD. Still only 125; both reliable companies.
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  • PC Reviewer - Thursday, May 21, 2009 - link

    first might i add that there is no such thing as "gaming speakers"

    no speakers are good for gaming.. the only way to go is headphones.. now obviously this is entry level but at least shell out a few more dollars for headphones if you are going to insert it with the title "gaming"

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  • nordicpc - Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - link

    Hey guys, the X2 Black Editions don't ship with a stock heatsink. Be sure to pick up a Freezer 64 or something for it. Reply
  • Gary Key - Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - link

    The 7750 and 7850BE retail units we received from Newegg both had heatsinks. Reply
  • jospoortvliet - Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - link

    Guys,

    I would love to see a few comparative benchmarks added to these systems - just to see how the entry-level Intel and AMD compare, for example...
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