Inside PC Power & Cooling
PC Power showed us their facility, which contains of a huge R&D center, an area where they customize power supplies, an RMA area where power supplies are also refurbished, and the warehouse. Several electricians in the RMA area are testing power supplies that came back for whatever reason. The larger area is being used to customize power supplies. PC Power & Cooling allows end-users to get additional cable harnesses or connectors, and if you choose this option it will be done by hand in this area for each customer. You may recall our review of the Turbo Cool 860 that came with six PCI-E connectors and extra SATA connectors. That wasn't something PC Power did specifically for AnandTech; it's a service they offer to any customer (for a price). PC Power has many commercial customers and most of them require customization, which is done here as well.
Gallery: PC Power and Cooling - Company Tour
A small room contains another Chroma 8000 ATE together with a small thermal chamber. PC Power is using this Chroma to perform the R&D work and tests on upcoming power supplies. We saw quite a few power supplies from different vendors that made their way down here for evaluation. We tested a few power supplies along with the new UPC PC Power showed in Las Vegas. Pictured above is the sine wave on the scope from when we were testing the UPC waveforms.
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RE: PCP&C rocks! Very nice PSU's I cant hear mine at all despite its 80mm fan! by corsa on Friday, January 30, 2009
Oh so this is where they do the re-badging ...I'll stick to Seasonic built Corsair.
RE: PCP&C rocks! Very nice PSU's I cant hear mine at all despite its 80mm fan! by OCZJess on Friday, January 30, 2009
Yes it is true that Seasonic is PC Power's OEM; however, PC Power designed and engineered the Silencer series themselves in Carlsbad, CA.
Don't forget PC Power was using Seasonic long before Corsair was even making PSUs. I guess we don't need to wonder why Corsair chose Seasonic :)
Don't forget PC Power was using Seasonic long before Corsair was even making PSUs. I guess we don't need to wonder why Corsair chose Seasonic :)
Fanboi Alert by ebayne on Wednesday, January 28, 2009
I am a major PC P+C fan. I have used them exclusively for going on 10 years now. The most effective ad I ever saw was the one where they showed the guts of an OEM next to a turboCool.
I'm 44 and am now teaching the next gen of PC Enthusiasts in my family. I tell them if they want my help building a system it has to have a PC P+C psu or I won't touch it. I don't understand these idjits that will spend 600 bucks on a cpu or gpu and then power it with a 10 dollar psu.
I'm 44 and am now teaching the next gen of PC Enthusiasts in my family. I tell them if they want my help building a system it has to have a PC P+C psu or I won't touch it. I don't understand these idjits that will spend 600 bucks on a cpu or gpu and then power it with a 10 dollar psu.
Not enough pictures of the shop! by 9nails on Tuesday, January 27, 2009
I'm in the San Diego area, and would love to take a tour some time. But a virtual tour with more pictures of the shop would have been a nice alternative.
I've often wondered how components are selected for power supplies. They can't all be selected out of a catalog, right? Any insight as to what goes into the build process?
I used to be a fan of Antec power supplies, but after my last one and it's RMA unit died on me, no longer. I've installed my first PCP&C Silencer 750 last November. And soon after I built a $4K computer system for a friend with the same power supply. I've liked the build quality so much that I specifically asked for a PCP&C power supply in my next business computer! I'd even be willing to donate the cost difference to my district just to make sure that I'm up and running, unlike those dime-a-dozen power supplies that die in a year. I've learned how addressing this one area of your computer fixes all the other little issues that crop up due to poor design.
I've often wondered how components are selected for power supplies. They can't all be selected out of a catalog, right? Any insight as to what goes into the build process?
I used to be a fan of Antec power supplies, but after my last one and it's RMA unit died on me, no longer. I've installed my first PCP&C Silencer 750 last November. And soon after I built a $4K computer system for a friend with the same power supply. I've liked the build quality so much that I specifically asked for a PCP&C power supply in my next business computer! I'd even be willing to donate the cost difference to my district just to make sure that I'm up and running, unlike those dime-a-dozen power supplies that die in a year. I've learned how addressing this one area of your computer fixes all the other little issues that crop up due to poor design.
Love my Sliencer 750!! by dunce on Tuesday, January 27, 2009
When the fan in my Silencer 750 started making a clicking sound. I called them and they told me to just bring it in (I live 10min away). They guys were very cool and it was fixed in 30min. Now that is customer service!! I will always run PC P&C Power Supplies!
PCPower & Cooling by looper on Tuesday, January 27, 2009
I have owned several of their PS units over the years. Quality and pride is what this company is all about.
OLD SCHOOL...
I hope to God that OCZ does not step in and change the success blueprint here.So often, after a takeover the parent Company, trying to cut costs, steps in and makes bad decisions.
OCZ... don't screw this up....
Brian in RI
OLD SCHOOL...
I hope to God that OCZ does not step in and change the success blueprint here.So often, after a takeover the parent Company, trying to cut costs, steps in and makes bad decisions.
OCZ... don't screw this up....
Brian in RI
RE: PCPower & Cooling by OCZJess on Tuesday, January 27, 2009
Hi Brian,
I would like to mention I am an employee of OCZ. We acquired PC Power & Cooling close to 2 years ago now and as you can see we have not imposed on what made PC Power so successful. The facility and employees have remained intact. In fact, PC Power has improved the quality and engineering of all of OCZ's PSUs.
I see it as a symbiotic relationship; Doug and team has helped take OCZ power supplies to a new level with their years of experience and immaculate testing abilities. OCZ has helped make them a world-class brand with their global distribution channel.
We promise not to screw it up ;)
I would like to mention I am an employee of OCZ. We acquired PC Power & Cooling close to 2 years ago now and as you can see we have not imposed on what made PC Power so successful. The facility and employees have remained intact. In fact, PC Power has improved the quality and engineering of all of OCZ's PSUs.
I see it as a symbiotic relationship; Doug and team has helped take OCZ power supplies to a new level with their years of experience and immaculate testing abilities. OCZ has helped make them a world-class brand with their global distribution channel.
We promise not to screw it up ;)
Picture by Joe Schmoe on Monday, January 26, 2009
I just noticed how much that guys office looks almost exactly like mine.. except all his junk is nicer.
120mm fans? by Zorlac on Monday, January 26, 2009
I agree the PC P&C most likely makes the best PSUs in the business, but I have to admit I will not buy another until they start using 120 or 140mm fans. Those 80mm blow dryers they use are stupidly loud.
Nice article by the way! :)
Nice article by the way! :)
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@marcreichman what's insane is that you can get that much compute in blades now as well
@anshelsag haha yeah, too late, clicked the wrong button :)
Will be doing power and perf comparison between the old and new configs over the coming weeks. For now, it's bedtime
That was high-end back in 2006 - 8 cores in a 4U box, now we have 12 in a 2U box
Finally carried our old DB server up to the lab: four socket, dual-core Opteron 880 based HP ProLiant DL585 http://t.co/ftyi8BPF
@ozym4ndias @wilshipley @pmod not really, not internal at least. here's a hint: http://t.co/iv6wXn7I :)
@RandomMegaBytes the 512GB drive won't actually update to the latest firmware, but the 128/256GB drives are very quick
@pmod IVB gives you the same memory bandwidth as SNB, likely see DDR3-1600 in mobile
@wilshipley @pmod remember with Ivy Bridge TDPs don't actually go down, in 2013 that will change though...
@wilshipley @pmod The Pro won't go away entirely, but we will see a trend towards thinner notebooks in general.
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I got back a totally new 500w PSU and its still goin strong!
I will buy nothing other than PCP&C in the future! I love the fact the internals of these are high quality and the 80mm fan design I still desire one reason being my case works best with those and 120mm fan PSU's dont get air in my smaller case =)
This PSU must have amazing cooling ability also, because after my computer has been under load for 24hrs crunching away on all "8" cores crunching away on WCG...I put my hand on the exhaust of the PSU and its cool air! the sides of the PSU are cool also.
My previous non PCP&C PSU's were hot and loud!!!!! with half the load ROFL!
I recommend PCP&C PSU's to everyone! the single 12V rail is also superior and....I just hate the idea of multi 12v PSU's having to balance everything and it just seems like a cheap way to get away with a lot of watts and not great parts.