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It was no secret — Samsung's secret weapon this year was the US unveiling of the SyncMaster 172X. Initial European sources claimed this was only to be a 16ms LCD, but product managers from Samsung confirmed that the response time is actually closer to 12ms, with 6ms Tr and Tf. You might recall that AU Optronics was the first panel manufacturer actually to produce a 16ms LCD panel, albeit 6-bit (262,000 colors, or 16M with dithering). This was very apparent in our Hitachi CML174 review from early this year. Our Samsung sources claim that the 172X panel, made by Samsung, will be a true 8-bit panel capable of 16.7M colors. Since we have had specification inconsistencies with virtually all LCD manufacturers in the past, our methodical approach to such incredible response time claims is, “we will believe it when we see it.” (This should be within a few weeks, when we get a sample.)


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You might notice the slightly new stand/bezel design. The 172X stand has been slimmed up considerably in relation to the 172T; weight has been even further distributed lower in the stand to keep the monitor stable. Once again, cable management will run outside the rear of the unit. Samsung certainly has the best cable management available right now, so our hats off to them. To sum up the rest of the monitor in a few words, the panel bezel has taken a different direction from the 172T; redesigned and narrowed for stack-ability and multi-display setups (think SyncMaster 191N). The control panel is still present, but the new preferred method for controlling contrast, brightness, etc., is done via Windows and OS 9/X software (we will get more into this during the actual product review).


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To our delight, Samsung also unveiled its 193P (above right) to us. For those of you who are horrified that Samsung discontinued the rotate and pivot functions when they upgraded the 191T to the 192T, providence comes in the form of the 193P. This really is the sleekest monitor that we saw at the show. Samsung continues their tradition of placing cable management in the base of the display. As you can see from the rear of the unit, there really isn't much on this monitor besides the panel and the stand. A certain “Applesk” look and feel is present.



Perhaps the most interesting thing about the 193P is the lack of controls. All controls are done via Windows and Mac based software. The Power button doubles as an Auto synchronization, but everything else must be done via software. Although not many people would spend $900 or more on an LCD for a Linux workstation, you really do not even get the option to with this display. Samsung representatives commented that enough demand for Linux/Unix based drivers would probably result in additional platform ports.

Fortunately, we also got a chance to clear up some of the rumors about contrast ratio inconsistencies with the 173T and the 192T. As you may or may not know, several review sites received review panels with different specifications. As a result, the monitor in our Samsung 192T preview uses a 450:1 contrast ratio LCD, while several other samples used 600:1 (or higher) contrast ratios in their specifications. The resulting conflictions left several consumers and editors fairly confused. Our Samsung PR contact informed us that the specification change has been set back officially to 450:1. Most, if not all, 192T and 173Ts are shipping with panels capable of higher contrast ratios than advertised, but they cannot list anything better than 450:1 contrast ratios due to the existing LCDs with lower contrast ratio that are still being sold. This does not exactly differ much from original speculation, but it is good to hear a firm position from Samsung itself.

Just an interesting side note, last month Samsung and Sony agreed on a joint venture company endeavor, which would make them perhaps the largest competitor for 7th generation LCD TV production. Currently, only four companies have even announced plans for 7G production (AUO, Sharp, LG.Philips, and Samsung-Sony's new MUO).

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  • KristopherKubicki - Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - link

    Sorry artifex, I updated it and forgot to mention it :)

    Kristopher
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  • WooDaddy - Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - link

    Kris,

    Cool. Look for a bunch of old guys in wife-beaters, drunk and with AVN passes around their necks touting the worlds-greatest new killer app.

    My company's image is very important to me. As the founder, I'd have it no other way.

    Woo
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  • artifex - Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - link

    oops, never mind, I see it's been changed to AGP and PCI, now.
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  • artifex - Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - link

    I'm still hoping someone can tell me how they managed to have two AGP cards in a single system? Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Monday, December 01, 2003 - link

    Yes we will have a bit of CES coverage.

    Look for the young guys in suits :) Thats us!

    Kristopher
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  • WooDaddy - Monday, December 01, 2003 - link

    Kris,

    I really hope that last comment you said about the CES is true. I'm planning on going this year. Do you or you collegues plan on going this coming year and doing an article?

    Woo
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  • KristopherKubicki - Monday, December 01, 2003 - link

    most monitors are 8 bit, only the AUO 16ms panel is 6 bit. The LG Philips and Samsung 16 and 12ms panels are 8bit. Sharp is working on 10bit panels by the end of the year.

    Kristopher
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  • ViRGE - Sunday, November 30, 2003 - link

    Humm, I'm a bit depressed to see yet another monitor company leave the CRT space; I'm still not ready for LCDs financially, and I'm still iffy on their features considering the 6bit and pixel response times(I mean we're just now at 16ms, which is barely acceptable in my book since that's nessisary for 60fps). I hope NEC stays in the game a bit longer, otherwise I'm going to have to start hording CRTs(although the current Samsung 757MB I use will last for quite some time I'm sure). Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Sunday, November 30, 2003 - link

    LG Philips is doing first runs on its 19" 16ms S-IPS panel. I will have to try to check with NEC concerning that panel.

    I know NEC has had a lot of quantity issues. They dont have a huge production capability and they probably wont be able to persue it much longer.

    Kristopher
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  • miomao - Sunday, November 30, 2003 - link

    Nec said they will use a proprietary S-IPS panel for the 1980SX successor. :\

    LG.Philips already make a 19'' 25ms S-IPS panel used in the LG L1910B model.
    But the pro model L1910P has a Fujitsu MVA.
    Someone say that maybe they still have production quantity problem (?)
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