Mushkin & Adata: 2 for the Fast-Timings Lane
by Wesley Fink on September 1, 2003 11:18 PM EST- Posted in
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Adata DDR450
Adata DDR450 is a very reasonably-priced memory, but somewhat difficult to find in the US market. It is readily available and widely used in many Asian markets. The Adata 450 we tested came as 2 separate Single-Bank dimms and was not supplied as a Dual-Channel kit. The dimms are packaged without heatspreaders and are assembled from blanks that are carrying an Adata ID.
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The Adata is conservatively programmed in SPD at 2.5-4-4-8 timings, but the memory performs at much better timings, particularly at lower speeds. The Adata does not operate at anything less than a Ras-to-Cas setting of 3 at any speed we tested. This is not an issue with just Adata. We are finding this to be typical of most high-speed modules these days, including those advertised as low latency. Even our Corsair 3200LL rev.1.2 now has an SPD program of 2-2-3-6, with Ras-to-Cas at 3. It appears one trade off with recent memory chips is poorer Ras-to-Cas performance.
| Adata DDR450 — 2 x 256MB SS Dimms Intel 875P Performance |
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| Memory Speed, Voltage, Timings | Quake3 fps |
UT2003 Flyby fps |
UT2003 Botmatch fps |
Sandra UNBuffered | Sandra Standard Buffered |
Super PI 2M places (time in sec) |
| 400@2.55V 2-2-3-7 |
311.00 | 192.6 | 68.00 | INT 2590 FLT 2667 |
INT 4776 FLT 4744 |
132s |
| 450@2.65V 2.5-3-4-7 |
334.57 | 205.94 | 74.10 | INT 2587 FLT 2611 |
INT 5209 FLT 5203 |
121s |
| 488@2.85V 2.5-4-4-8 |
356.90 | 216.42 | 79.55 | INT 2679 FLT 2685 |
INT 5630 FLT 5584 |
113s |
Since Adata is only available as SS modules and Adata only supplied 2 Single-Bank modules, performance cannot be fairly compared to 2 Double-Bank modules on the Intel 875 platform. In the larger DDR400 comparison that follows, Adata DDR450 can be compared to Kingston PC4000 2 x 256 SS, and then to 4 x 256 SS to get a rough idea of the performance improvement available with 4 SS dimms or 2 DS dimms. For best performance on an Intel 875/865 platform, we strongly suggest that you use FOUR Adata DDR450 modules.
| Adata DDR450 — 2 x 256MB SS Dimms AMD nForce2 Ultra 400 Performance |
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| Memory Speed, Voltage, Timings | Quake3 fps |
UT2003 Flyby fps |
UT2003 Botmatch fps |
Sandra UNBuffered | Sandra Standard Buffered |
Super PI 2M places (time in sec) |
| 333@2.55V 2-2-3-4 |
289.8 | 199.82 | 73.27 | INT 1202 FLT 1294 |
INT 2566 FLT 2415 |
124s |
| 400@2.55V 2-2-3-4 |
344.6 | 233.61 | 87.53 | INT 1402 FLT 1503 |
INT 3060 FLT 2880 |
104s |
| 450@2.7V 2.5-3-4-6 |
376.43 | 251.44 | 96.26 | INT 1529 FLT 1617 |
INT 3411 FLT 3180 |
94s |
Performance on the Athlon test platform was generally outstanding, especially considering the price of Adata PC450 memory. We were a little surprised that we could reach a stable DDR450 on our nForce2 Ultra 400 testbed, and the increased speed did provide improved performance across the board.
These test setups were designed to test memory performance and should not be used as a direct comparison of Athlon Barton vs. Pentium4 performance. Because of the differences in architecture, our fastest P4 speed in this test is 2.73Ghz (244x12) and our fastest Barton in this test is 2475Ghz or about 3700+ on a rating scale. If you wish to compare Barton vs. P4, please compare these best Barton scores to the best P4 scores running at about 3.6Ghz.
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Anonymous User - Monday, September 8, 2003 - link
Wes, thanks for the great review!! It answered all of my questions and now I can make my purchase of the Mushkin 3500 Level II with confidence.Cheers,
Wiley
Anonymous User - Sunday, September 7, 2003 - link
Hrmm sorry for interrupting but i am running 2 pieces of pc3200 2-2-2 before i swtich to 3500 level 2.those are good rams.
there is nothing like it in the market.
Anonymous User - Sunday, September 7, 2003 - link
Hey Wes, what do you think of the Mushkin PC3200 Level 2 Black? I'm seriously contemplating buying 2x512mb of that stuff.Anonymous User - Saturday, September 6, 2003 - link
Wow! I clicked Post Comment only once folks! Honest!Anonymous User - Saturday, September 6, 2003 - link
Great article! I don't OC much at all and I love the Mushkin PC3500 Lvl II Black. As you can see from the system information below I run 4x512mb modules of it and love it!My benchmark numbers are:
6136 3Dmark03s
3129 Sandra Unbuffered Int
3184 Sandra Unbuffered Float
5002 Sandra Buffered Int
5006 Sandra Buffered Float
System:
P4 3Ghz/800Mhz FSB (OC'd to 3.12Ghz/832Mhz), Gigabyte 8KNXP Motherboard w/DPS2 REMOVED (F6 Bios), 4x512mb Mushkin PC3500 Level II Black RAM (2-2-2-5@DDR416), ATI 9800 Pro 256mb (OC'd to 414/356), SB Audigy 2 Platinum, 2x WD Raptor 10kRPM SATA150 Game Drives in RAID0 off of ICH5R, IBM Deskstar GXP180 System Drive, 2x Samsung DVD/CDRW, Mitsumi Floppy, Lian-Li PC65 Window Case w/Alien Head & Blue Cold Cathode Light, Enermax 550W v1.2 PSU, Thermalright SLK-900U HSF w/AS3 and Antec 92mm Fan, 4x Sunon 39cfm 80mm Fans (2 Front Intake, 1 Rear & 1 TopExhaust), 1 PCI Slot Exhaust Fan, Vantec Fan Controller, Sony F520 21" CRT & Samsung 191T LCD Monitors, WinXP Pro SP1 w/No Paging File, DirectX 9.0b, ATI Catalyst 3.7 & Stock SB2 Drivers
Anonymous User - Saturday, September 6, 2003 - link
Great article! I don't OC much at all and I love the Mushkin PC3500 Lvl II Black. As you can see from the system information below I run 4x512mb modules of it and love it!My benchmark numbers are:
6136 3Dmark03s
3129 Sandra Unbuffered Int
3184 Sandra Unbuffered Float
5002 Sandra Buffered Int
5006 Sandra Buffered Float
System:
P4 3Ghz/800Mhz FSB (OC'd to 3.12Ghz/832Mhz), Gigabyte 8KNXP Motherboard w/DPS2 REMOVED (F6 Bios), 4x512mb Mushkin PC3500 Level II Black RAM (2-2-2-5@DDR416), ATI 9800 Pro 256mb (OC'd to 414/356), SB Audigy 2 Platinum, 2x WD Raptor 10kRPM SATA150 Game Drives in RAID0 off of ICH5R, IBM Deskstar GXP180 System Drive, 2x Samsung DVD/CDRW, Mitsumi Floppy, Lian-Li PC65 Window Case w/Alien Head & Blue Cold Cathode Light, Enermax 550W v1.2 PSU, Thermalright SLK-900U HSF w/AS3 and Antec 92mm Fan, 4x Sunon 39cfm 80mm Fans (2 Front Intake, 1 Rear & 1 TopExhaust), 1 PCI Slot Exhaust Fan, Vantec Fan Controller, Sony F520 21" CRT & Samsung 191T LCD Monitors, WinXP Pro SP1 w/No Paging File, DirectX 9.0b, ATI Catalyst 3.7 & Stock SB2 Drivers
Anonymous User - Saturday, September 6, 2003 - link
Great article! I don't OC much at all and I love the Mushkin PC3500 Lvl II Black. As you can see from the system information below I run 4x512mb modules of it and love it!My benchmark numbers are:
6136 3Dmark03s
3129 Sandra Unbuffered Int
3184 Sandra Unbuffered Float
5002 Sandra Buffered Int
5006 Sandra Buffered Float
System:
P4 3Ghz/800Mhz FSB (OC'd to 3.12Ghz/832Mhz), Gigabyte 8KNXP Motherboard w/DPS2 REMOVED (F6 Bios), 4x512mb Mushkin PC3500 Level II Black RAM (2-2-2-5@DDR416), ATI 9800 Pro 256mb (OC'd to 414/356), SB Audigy 2 Platinum, 2x WD Raptor 10kRPM SATA150 Game Drives in RAID0 off of ICH5R, IBM Deskstar GXP180 System Drive, 2x Samsung DVD/CDRW, Mitsumi Floppy, Lian-Li PC65 Window Case w/Alien Head & Blue Cold Cathode Light, Enermax 550W v1.2 PSU, Thermalright SLK-900U HSF w/AS3 and Antec 92mm Fan, 4x Sunon 39cfm 80mm Fans (2 Front Intake, 1 Rear & 1 TopExhaust), 1 PCI Slot Exhaust Fan, Vantec Fan Controller, Sony F520 21" CRT & Samsung 191T LCD Monitors, WinXP Pro SP1 w/No Paging File, DirectX 9.0b, ATI Catalyst 3.7 & Stock SB2 Drivers
Anonymous User - Saturday, September 6, 2003 - link
Great article! I don't OC much at all and I love the Mushkin PC3500 Lvl II Black. As you can see from the system information below I run 4x512mb modules of it and love it!My benchmark numbers are:
6136 3Dmark03s
3129 Sandra Unbuffered Int
3184 Sandra Unbuffered Float
5002 Sandra Buffered Int
5006 Sandra Buffered Float
System:
P4 3Ghz/800Mhz FSB (OC'd to 3.12Ghz/832Mhz), Gigabyte 8KNXP Motherboard w/DPS2 REMOVED (F6 Bios), 4x512mb Mushkin PC3500 Level II Black RAM (2-2-2-5@DDR416), ATI 9800 Pro 256mb (OC'd to 414/356), SB Audigy 2 Platinum, 2x WD Raptor 10kRPM SATA150 Game Drives in RAID0 off of ICH5R, IBM Deskstar GXP180 System Drive, 2x Samsung DVD/CDRW, Mitsumi Floppy, Lian-Li PC65 Window Case w/Alien Head & Blue Cold Cathode Light, Enermax 550W v1.2 PSU, Thermalright SLK-900U HSF w/AS3 and Antec 92mm Fan, 4x Sunon 39cfm 80mm Fans (2 Front Intake, 1 Rear & 1 TopExhaust), 1 PCI Slot Exhaust Fan, Vantec Fan Controller, Sony F520 21" CRT & Samsung 191T LCD Monitors, WinXP Pro SP1 w/No Paging File, DirectX 9.0b, ATI Catalyst 3.7 & Stock SB2 Drivers
Anonymous User - Saturday, September 6, 2003 - link
Great article! I don't OC much at all and I love the Mushkin PC3500 Lvl II Black. As you can see from the system information below I run 4x512mb modules of it and love it!My benchmark numbers are:
6136 3Dmark03s
3129 Sandra Unbuffered Int
3184 Sandra Unbuffered Float
5002 Sandra Buffered Int
5006 Sandra Buffered Float
System:
P4 3Ghz/800Mhz FSB (OC'd to 3.12Ghz/832Mhz), Gigabyte 8KNXP Motherboard w/DPS2 REMOVED (F6 Bios), 4x512mb Mushkin PC3500 Level II Black RAM (2-2-2-5@DDR416), ATI 9800 Pro 256mb (OC'd to 414/356), SB Audigy 2 Platinum, 2x WD Raptor 10kRPM SATA150 Game Drives in RAID0 off of ICH5R, IBM Deskstar GXP180 System Drive, 2x Samsung DVD/CDRW, Mitsumi Floppy, Lian-Li PC65 Window Case w/Alien Head & Blue Cold Cathode Light, Enermax 550W v1.2 PSU, Thermalright SLK-900U HSF w/AS3 and Antec 92mm Fan, 4x Sunon 39cfm 80mm Fans (2 Front Intake, 1 Rear & 1 TopExhaust), 1 PCI Slot Exhaust Fan, Vantec Fan Controller, Sony F520 21" CRT & Samsung 191T LCD Monitors, WinXP Pro SP1 w/No Paging File, DirectX 9.0b, ATI Catalyst 3.7 & Stock SB2 Drivers
retrospooty - Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - link
Cool, Thanks. I take back what I took back , and give it up to you ! :DRetrospooty