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The Athlon II X2 & Phenom II X2: 45nm Dual-Core from AMD
The Athlon II X2 & Phenom II X2: 45nm Dual-Core from AMD
Date: June 2nd, 2009
Topic: CPU & Chipset
Manufacturer: AMD
Author: Anand Lal Shimpi
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Overclocking

Both the Athlon II X2 and the Phenom II X2 managed to overclock to about the same levels. Without any additional core voltage they were able to run at 3.5 - 3.6GHz, with the Athlon II being able to go a bit higher thanks to being free of any L3 cache. With less than 10% additional core voltage I was able to get both chips up to 3.7GHz. The Athlon II X2 250, when overvolted, managed to reliably hit 3.75GHz.

Gary's sample was able to work solid at 4.0GHz while mine would fail at 3.8GHz or above.

Processor Highest Overclock (Stock Voltage) Highest Overclock (Overvolted) % Increase over stock
AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE 3.5GHz 3.7GHz 19%
AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.6GHz 3.75GHz 25%
Intel Pentium E6300 3.40GHz 3.57GHz 28%

 

The Pentium E6300 topped out just under 3.6GHz with ~10% additional voltage. I noticed a strange trend when overclocking the E6300. I set the FSB to 340MHz, which when multiplied with the CPU's 10.5x multiplier should yield 3.57GHz. Yet with no additional voltage, the CPU would hardly ever go above a 10.0x multiplier once in Windows - resulting in a 3.40GHz clock speed:

The chip wasn't throttling due to heat, it simply would not run at 3.57GHz without any additional voltage. As soon as I gave it more voltage or as soon as I disabled EIST, the CPU ran at its correct frequency:


All I did was disable EIST, although increasing the VID also resulted in the same thing

Even with additional voltage however I wasn't able to get the E6300 stable at above 3.57GHz.

Processor x264 Pass 2 Cinebench XCPU Crysis Warhead
AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE @ 3.7GHz 11.0 fps 8224 74.5 fps
AMD Athlon II X2 250 @ 3.75GHz 11.0 fps 7968 75.0 fps
Intel Pentium E6300 @ 3.57GHz 11.7 fps 8096 80.8 fps

 

The Pentium E6300 is actually quite competitive when overclocked and appears to scale very well with additional clock speed. It also helps that AMD's clock speed advantage shrinks once we overclock these chips a bit.

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55 Comments - Last by adiposity, 249 days ago
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graph by ssj4Gogeta, 252 days ago
Anand, the x264 first pass encoding graph is "higher is better" but the processors are arranged with the shortest bar (slowest processor) on the top. Please fix that.

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RE: graph by Ryan Smith, 252 days ago
Noted and fixed.

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Found a typo in the first CPU table by Eeqmcsq, 252 days ago
The one comparing various Athlon X2 specs. The table says the Athlon 64 X2 has 4 cores.

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RE: Found a typo in the first CPU table by Anand Lal Shimpi, 252 days ago
Woops, thank you :)

-A

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linux kernel compilation tests by haplo602, 252 days ago
can you include linux kernel compilation tests, or something similar or larger (gcc, libqt, X) ??? would help me much more than gaming and 3d rendering benches :-)

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RE: linux kernel compilation tests by virvan, 252 days ago
Anand, I BEG you to include some kind of compilation tests in the "bench" application; some of us are actually programmers that spend more time building than watching or transcoding movies ;)
A Linux Kernel bench + some kind of MS Visual C++ benchmark would be extremely welcome.
Btw, when could we expect the old CPUs to be added to Bench? I am specifically waiting for Athlon XP and P3/P4's.
10x

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RE: linux kernel compilation tests by Anand Lal Shimpi, 252 days ago
I really do want to include a software build test, the question is what is the simplest to setup and run, most representative and most repeatable test I can run?

I'd prefer something under Windows because it means one less OS/image change (which matters if you're trying to run something on ~70 different configurations) but I'm open to all suggestions.

Thoughts? Feel free to take this conversation offline over email if you'd like to help.

Take care,
Anand

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RE: linux kernel compilation tests by adiposity, 252 days ago
A fairly decent size build that I do is Qt under VS 2008.

Instructions are here:

http://wiki.qtcentre.org/index.php?title=Qt4_with_Visual_Studio

Download source here:

http://www.qtsoftware.com/downloads/windows-cpp

You can use VS2008 Express.

-Dan

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RE: linux kernel compilation tests by smitty3268, 251 days ago
All of Qt might be a bit large for a simple benchmark.

Something like Paint.NET or NDepend might make a good C# test.

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RE: linux kernel compilation tests by adiposity, 251 days ago
Use:

nmake sub-src

It only compiles qt libraries, not the tools or examples.

It really does not take very long (less than 10 minutes on a Core2Duo 2.4).

-Dan

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