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Intel: More Details on Penryn and Nehalem
Intel: More Details on Penryn and Nehalem
Date: March 28th, 2007
Topic: CPU & Chipset
Manufacturer: Intel
Author: Johan De Gelas
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In our meeting today, Stephen L Smith (Intel's Vice President Director of the Digital Enterprise Group) and Pat Gelsinger revealed some very interesting details about their next-generation Penryn family of processors. These processors will be launched in the second half of this year. Details of Nehalem, which will see the light in the second half of 2008, were also provided.

Both new processors are based upon the current Intel Core micro architecture and use Intel's newest 45nm Hi-k process technology with its hafnium-based Hi-k + metal gate transistor design. We discussed Intel's 45nm process technology in more detail previously. According to Intel, more than fifteen 45nm Hi-k product designs are in various stages of development, and Intel will have two 45nm manufacturing fabs in production by the end of the year, with a total of four in production by the second half of 2008.



Penryn's Enhanced Core Architecture

The quad core version of Penryn contains 820 million transistors (Kentsfield has 582 million) in two very small dies of 107mm2. That makes the new design 25 percent smaller than Intel's current 65nm Quad core (143 mm2).


The new Penryn CPU also has yet another addition to the x86 ISA: Intel Streaming SIMD Extensions 4 (SSE4) instructions. It has also been confirmed that Penryn will deliver higher IPC and higher clock speeds. Intel wouldn't say more than "more than 3 GHz", but considering that the FSB is bumped up to 1600 MHz, 3.2 GHz is likely. However, several Intel people confirmed that if necessary ("depending on what the competition does"), the 45nm CPUs can go quite a bit higher (3.6 GHz is probably a safe estimate, considering how far current Core 2 CPUs are able to overclock).


With regards to power, Intel will be introducing what it is calling "Deep Power Down Technology", or a new lower power state, C6. The new C6 state reduces core voltage down to the absolute minimum for the given process technology, shuts down the core clock as well as turns off all of the caches. It is the absolute lowest power state that can be attained and will be introduced on Mobile Penryn family processors.

Penryn family processors are supposed to be socket-compatible, meaning that on the desktop we will see them introduced as LGA-775 CPUs. We'd expect that Intel's new lineup of chipsets will be required, but we are not sure if the new chipsets will support the 1600MHz FSB out of the box or if a refresh will be required.


Penryn-based processors also have a much better divider unit, roughly doubling the divider speed using a faster divide technique called Radix 16. Also, the shuffle engine has been improved. Intel's "Super Shuffle Engine" is a 128-bit, single-pass shuffle unit that can perform full-width shuffles in a single cycle, improving performance for SSE2, SSE3 and SSE4 instructions that have shuffle-like operations such as pack, unpack and wider packed shifts.


The last improvement is the "Split Load Cache Enhancement" which lowers the impact of data which is not aligned to cacheline boundaries. This seems to happen in some SSE intensive imaging applications.

The Quad core desktop and the quad core Xeon products will need 120W, 80W and 50W (LV) just like today. The dual core products will get a 40W/65W and 80W TDP.

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14 Comments - Last by Justin Case, 1048 days ago
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Compition by Locutus465, 1049 days ago
Oh yeah, you hit the nail on the head... Much more important than the actual performance gains is the fact that neither company is going to be sititing on their laurals putting out bad or otherwise unexciting products out for the forseeable future.

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IMC by feelingshorter, 1049 days ago
So Intel will finally use a IMC like AMD. Does that mean overclocking will be relatively flat across the board? If all the CPUs of the same stepping have the same IMC, then overclocks will be less motherboard dependent wont it? Or am I confusing IMC with something else? That also means all the chip manufactures will have to find new business. Although they can continue to manufacture motherboards, we've seen what happened to companies in the past when AMD decided to use IMC.

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RE: IMC by tuteja1986, 1048 days ago
Well we will have to wait till Q2 of 2008 to see if intel cliams are true or not. Till then my eyes lay on AMD's Barcelona architecture since its coming out this year and if AMD claims are right then it should be able to beat up a intel offering.

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an advantage to early public disclosure by tumbleweed, 1049 days ago
The earlier a company discloses what their plans are, the earlier they get feedback on how the public likes or dislikes some of their plans.

Think about how much money Intel could have saved if they'd realized much earlier how badly the public hated RAMBUS.

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RE: an advantage to early public disclosure by sdsdv10, 1048 days ago
Yes, I agree early disclosure is a good thing, but let's clarify the "public" doesn't hate RAMBUS. Most of the "public" doesn't know who Rambus is or even care. The only ones who hate Rambus is a minority of tech geeks who can't move on.

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Let the development wars begin! by HammerFan, 1049 days ago
I really like to see this kind of information, that neither company is sitting down and saying "enough's enough." I wonder though, if Intel is going to use their own graphics systems in their all-in-one chip, or if they'll turn to nVidia/ ATi for a graphics solution. As for chipset manufacturers, how well they do will largely depend on the features they can pack into their SB's IMHO, as that's largely what I look for when I want a new MB, since performance from board to board doesn't vary that much anyway.

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RE: Let the development wars begin! by chucky2, 1049 days ago
Yeah, I'd myself really like to see AMD, Intel, and nVidia adding support of native 1394b (Firewire 800) in their chipsets, so products like that can start moving forward.

Having eSATA would be nice as well...

Chuck

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That sound you hear by Phynaz, 1049 days ago
Is the sound of piss running down Hectors leg.

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You can tell Intel is running scared by cornfedone, 1049 days ago
Intel knows they are about to get punished again by AMD so they are greasing the skids to get the media hype they need to delude consumers into believing Intel's products will still be competitive after Barcelona, when the facts prove otherwise.

Hey if nothing else, Intel is good for a laugh. It's nice to see those criminals squirm for a change. It's only gonna get worse when they get to court and AMD proves that Intel violated law over and over and over again in their obsession to eliminate competition.




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RE: You can tell Intel is running scared by amdsupport, 1049 days ago
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Intel knows they are about to get punished again by AMD so they are greasing the skids to get the media hype they need to delude consumers into believing Intel's products will still be competitive after Barcelona, when the facts prove otherwise.



Congratulations! You've just constructed the 4millionth floor on the edifice of stupidity.

Seriously...there is no basis for claiming AMD's new stuff(or rather, refreshed) will exceed Intel's offerings. Anandtech themselves claimed in a previous article that "AMD could come close to offering something competitive to Intel." That sounds like AMD will only bring themselves back in line with Intel's current offerings...not exceed or punish as you claim.

As far as the court proceedings go...any result from it at best would result with a simple "slap on the wrist" punishment at best.




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