MSI B85M ECO Conclusion

Striving for better power efficiency is a goal we should all aim towards. A lot of people can do what they do at the same rate but consume less energy if they had access to more efficient components. Given the global climate, MSI has produced a range of motherboards to cater to businesses with a green mindset from the ground up.

Unfortunately the best plans of mice and men 'gang aft agley’ (often go awry), and in the world of electronics and business, money is the big talker. Few businesses will spend $20 to save $1 a year, so the concept also has to make financial sense to the end user. In order to launch a product that would sell to more than those with the best intentions, MSI had to create the motherboards to save significant power each year and fit within an upgrade cycle. That can be difficult when the gains are small and the cycles are short.

We used MSI’s base numbers (which in the world of marketing usually show the product in the best light possible), and calculated that in comparison to a standard range motherboard the MSI ECO can make financial sense to users with a 4-5 year upgrade cycle. Any shorter and it won’t make sense, though arguably our own numbers showed that the more the system is used in terms of loading, the better the financial outcome. If businesses are sticking to a 3 year upgrade cycle, this might not be enough of a saving to make sense.

By using the B85 chipset, the B85M ECO is aiming at Intel’s Small Business Advantage market. These can be medium volume customers purchasing for businesses making under-the-desk PCs for offices but still have a level of control or need vPro style management. This allows MSI to build the motherboard with office usage in mind – fewer power phases, smaller heatsinks, few PCIe slots but plenty of DRAM or storage if needed (as long as the locking cables don’t get in the way). At the end of the day, compared to all the previous Haswell-capable motherboards we have reviewed, the MSI B85M ECO uses the least power in long idle, idle and OCCT load, including against mini-ITX motherboards.

MSI is keen to point out its TÜV certification, and currently this motherboard is available from Newegg for $73. While the white/green PCBs from the initial Computex showing have not made it through to this model, the white and green matching across the board, box, BIOS and software maintain that mentality of ‘green is good for everyone’.

The BIOS does feel light compared to the overclocking BIOSes we have used on MSI motherboards in the past, and there are a couple of superfluous BIOS options, but it works as it should and we still get good fan controls in there. The software revolves around ECO Center Pro which is an update of previous ECO Center software we have seen but a little more extreme. One thing I would like to see in the future is MSI add in a testing mode that deals with CPU loading and fan loading. By testing enough permutations, the system could figure out the most power efficient fan curve for the system at every point.

One of the points in the review was the inability to select a lower CPU voltage. Both voltage and frequency have a role in total system power consumption, but when full performance is still needed, voltage is the only variable left to modify. I posed this question to MSI, and received the following response:

“We actually did try to do some testing with lower CPU voltage settings. The reason why we didn’t include it into the current BIOS is because we think Intel’s current FIVR architecture puts too many limits inside their design and we [would] rather use Intel’s integrated power saving features like C-State (Up to C7) and also SVID power. But it’s still a good suggestion that we can request our R&D to do more testing and check if we can fine tune better settings to enhance the power saving ability.”

The final question should be ‘well, does it work?’. Over a standard motherboard, the power savings are clear from both MSI’s numbers and our own. The biggest hurdle MSI will have to overcome is the price difference to a standard motherboard that takes 4-5 years to break even financially in ‘light’ office use, or the added cost of efficient 300W power supplies. Depending on the company refresh cycle, it might not make sense, but they might see another added benefit of being able to promote a ‘green’ computing strategy.

I believe this is a market MSI should pursue, and it will be interesting to see how it develops from both a hardware and software standpoint. If MSI were to publish the exact differences in PCB component selection, that we be golden, but I would assume that is part of their secret sauce and not up for sharing.

MSI is still interested in taking comments on the ECO line, so if you see something you like/dislike or have a few ideas on what you want to see, please leave a comment in this review. Personally I like the color scheme, and it might be interesting to see it on an ATX sized model. A dual GPU system might not exactly be green (unless it’s NVIDIA), but it might be worth trying to make it an efficient rig with a pair of Maxwells and DDR3L.

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  • simonpschmitt - Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - link

    I just found the board online for 68€ witch means one would break even after 2.2 Years.
  • miksmi - Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - link

    For servers, I moved to the mini-ITX form factor and am interested in an ECO version. I keep servers 8-10 years.
  • hojnikb - Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - link

    For office (and other non demanding uses) wouldn't it make more sense to go j1900 route rather than eco 1150 + celeron/pentium/i3 cpu ?
    It will use way less power than 1150 + fanless by default (even more power savings).
  • Ian Cutress - Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - link

    For most office work, you're probably right. But a socketed platform does offer a potential upgrade path if the dynamics of the work change to something more computationally intensive. Also going down the LGA1150 route offers faster response times, which some businesses might argue is important when continuously dealing with emails and so on. It really depends on the scenario.
  • Folterknecht - Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - link

    "One of the points in the review was the inability to select a lower CPU voltage. Both voltage and frequency have a role in total system power consumption, but when full performance is still needed, voltage is the only variable left to modify. I posed this question to MSI, and received the following response:

    “We actually did try to do some testing with lower CPU voltage settings. The reason why we didn’t include it into the current BIOS is because we think Intel’s current FIVR architecture puts too many limits inside their design and we [would] rather use Intel’s integrated power saving features like C-State (Up to C7) and also SVID power. But it’s still a good suggestion that we can request our R&D to do more testing and check if we can fine tune better settings to enhance the power saving ability.”"

    Lazy excuse in my book, considering that its still possible to undervolt current generation Intel CPUs quite a bit, at least when it comes to load voltage susually something between 0.1 - 0.2 V. As a MB manufacturer I can imagine that it would even be possible to play around with everything between idle and full load voltage, something a normal user cant do.

    So instead of waisting their time on hot marketing air, develop something along the lines of auto-OC software or as an option in BIOS, but instead of overclocking let it undervolt the CPU automatically until it fails. But please no "1-2-3 click ready nonsense" of predefined values, more along the lines of a small stress test, which lowers the voltage by 0.02V or something like that after every sucessfull pass.
    The perfect end result would be a bios voltage table (or in software), which fits the cpu installed - we all know the silicon lottery here. In an approach like this, lies much potential for saving energy.
  • andychow - Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - link

    I've worked in the cubicles of many large corporations, and most people just log off their session or lock their screens at the end of the day, they don't turn the computer off. So cost savings would be even more interesting in these scenarios.
  • piasabird - Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - link

    So do unused ports and slots use power? Like if you use just 2 ddr3 SLOTS do the empty slots use power? Same with SATA and PCIE? So if the case is so why not use a MITX motherboard?
  • piasabird - Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - link

    You cant just look at the cost to run the motherboard. What about an eco friendly Monitor? Then there is the heat that is created to use the motherboard. During the summer or in say a server room something is cooling off the hot air.
  • just4U - Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - link

    Hi Ian,

    I hadn't really noticed that Anand wasn't reviewing business class motherboards. I picked up a H97 GAMING 3 MSI board for my wife a few weeks back.. certainly doesn't look like a business board.. but it does come with all the software. Maybe you will get a chance to review that one in coming months..

    Anyway, on this one I almost thought it was a Sniper board at first geez.. GREEN.. Waiting to see your matx x99 review.. should be interesting!
  • Daniel Egger - Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - link

    I LOLed when seeing the TÜV Logos. There're only few certifications like GS that follow a normed procedure. Other than that you can basically specify the test procedure and criteria, deliver the products (and a boatload of cash) and they will certify you that your products passed test procedures by the criteria you've specified. Very useful...

    The important point of information I'm missing here is: What were the tests? What were the passing criteria? Is there any competition which underwent the same certification and if so what were the results?

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