Initial Thoughts

NVIDIA made some big promises with the GTX 980M, and in general they delivered. While the gap between the desktop GTX 980 and mobile the GTX 980M may end up being more than 25% in many cases, that's probably going to be more a case of CPU performance helping desktops than it is a lack of GPU performance. Overall, the GTX 980M bests the previous generation GTX 880M by over 30%, and in some cases it's as much as 45-50% faster, e.g. in Metro: Last Light Redux. Considering that's one of the most demanding games around, when the GPU is really pushed to its limits we'll likely see an even bigger margin of victory over previous generations of GPUs. And that's without even testing new features like DX12 support, VXGI, etc.

Of course, by the time we see games implement VXGI NVIDIA will likely have the next generation of mobile and desktop GPUs available. If you're already running a high-end gaming notebook, this is also a tough sell as 30-50% is certainly an improvement, but most gamers would be willing to drop a few settings in order to achieve high frame rates on anything from GTX 680M to GTX 880M. It's really a question of what you currently have and what level of performance you're willing to pay for. Gamers with GTX 680M and earlier will certainly be tempted, and the 980M should offer basically twice the performance of a GTX 680M. Notebooks also tend to wear out faster than desktops, so a three year old notebook is getting close to being due for an upgrade regardless.

Obviously we're still missing information on other elements like battery life, how well BatteryBoost works, and general application performance. I don't think that last one is really a concern, though – with three SSDs in RAID 0 and a quad-core Haswell CPU, the MSI GT72 is more than fast enough for mundane office tasks. Considering battery life has been rather hit and miss with MSI over the past couple of years, that's a bit more of a wild card, but the fact that NVIDIA has been using the GT72 as their demo notebook for BatteryBoost suggests it will make a better showing than the GT70 with 880M. Or perhaps not….

One interesting tidbit is that the GT72 doesn't actually implement NVIDIA's Optimus Technology. This will cause some controversy I'm sure, as a reboot cycle is now required to switch between the Intel HD 4600 and the GTX 980M, and many users will likely just leave the GTX 980M enabled and forget about the Intel Processor Graphics. (There's a button to the left of the keyboard that switches between GPUs.) I don't know (yet) what the end result will be in terms of battery life, but there are a few users out there that really dislike Optimus for a variety of reasons (e.g. it doesn't play well at times with things like the Oculus Rift, apparently). If NVIDIA can get power use of the GTX 980M low enough at idle that it doesn't impact battery life too much, though, this could be the best solution for gaming notebooks.

Right now, I have to say that I'm really impressed with the MSI GT72 Dominator Pro. I'd still love to see a slightly higher resolution display, and anything other than a TN panel would be preferable. 2560x1440 would be ideal in my opinion – 3K and 4K are too much right now, but 2560x1440 should be just about right for the 980M. Outside of that complaint and some concerns over the lack of Optimus support, there are really no other flaws with the GT72. It looks so much better than the previous generation GT70 that I suspect it may become difficult for retailers to move any unsold inventory. I've liked the changes that MSI made to the GE and GS lines, and it's great to see the GT series finally get a much needed overhaul. All we need now is a GT62, which could very well be in the works. I'll be back next week with the complete review, but if you can't wait that long this is looking like the gaming notebook to beat.

MSI GT72: High Quality Gaming Performance
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  • Laststop311 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    I'm assuming these m2 slots are sata based and not pci-e based. That kinda sucks. What I would really love to see would be a different radical allocation of the 16 cpu based pci-e lanes. Only 8 lanes are needed for the GPU there really is no difference between 16x and 8x. So if msi could run the gpu from 8x lanes and then run 2x pci-e 3.0 lanes to each m2 slot. so 4x 2x lanes for the 4 m2 slots equals 8 lanes and 8x lanes for the gpu there is your 16 total lanes. Yes I know 4x lanes for each m2 would be ideal but even 2 lanes gives 2GB/sec which is pretty much faster than any ssd currently. If this machine took 4x pci-e 3.0 2x m2 ssd's i'd be all over it. RAID 0 with a max of 8GB/sec throughput is insane. 4x of the Samsung 1TB sm951 m2 ssd's with native pci-e 3.0 interface and nvme would be insanity. 4TB of super fast SSD storage -drools-
  • bin806 - Thursday, October 9, 2014 - link

    People who own msi gt dominator with 870M or 880M can upgrade their GPU to a 970M or 980M....:) MSI released a video guide today..:)

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QZZ5hGDZpI8

    Another cool thing is you can upgrade to next generation Maxwell GPU as well when it comes out in late 2015..:)
  • RoninX - Sunday, October 12, 2014 - link

    It's time to upgrade my XPS 15 L502X (GT 525M), and I'm seriously considering the GT60 Dominator or GS60 Ghost, both with the 970M. Are there any differences I should be aware of other than the form factor and the price? I know the Dominator has a larger, replaceable battery, and of course, the Ghost is much lighter and thinner.

    Do they use the same screen? Would you expect much of a difference in performance?

    I know there aren't that many people who have the 970M yet, but I'd also be interested in general feedback from anyone who owns an earlier generation GT60 or GS60.

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