Initial Thoughts

NVIDIA made some big promises with the GTX 980M, and in general they delivered. While the gap between the desktop GTX 980 and mobile the GTX 980M may end up being more than 25% in many cases, that's probably going to be more a case of CPU performance helping desktops than it is a lack of GPU performance. Overall, the GTX 980M bests the previous generation GTX 880M by over 30%, and in some cases it's as much as 45-50% faster, e.g. in Metro: Last Light Redux. Considering that's one of the most demanding games around, when the GPU is really pushed to its limits we'll likely see an even bigger margin of victory over previous generations of GPUs. And that's without even testing new features like DX12 support, VXGI, etc.

Of course, by the time we see games implement VXGI NVIDIA will likely have the next generation of mobile and desktop GPUs available. If you're already running a high-end gaming notebook, this is also a tough sell as 30-50% is certainly an improvement, but most gamers would be willing to drop a few settings in order to achieve high frame rates on anything from GTX 680M to GTX 880M. It's really a question of what you currently have and what level of performance you're willing to pay for. Gamers with GTX 680M and earlier will certainly be tempted, and the 980M should offer basically twice the performance of a GTX 680M. Notebooks also tend to wear out faster than desktops, so a three year old notebook is getting close to being due for an upgrade regardless.

Obviously we're still missing information on other elements like battery life, how well BatteryBoost works, and general application performance. I don't think that last one is really a concern, though – with three SSDs in RAID 0 and a quad-core Haswell CPU, the MSI GT72 is more than fast enough for mundane office tasks. Considering battery life has been rather hit and miss with MSI over the past couple of years, that's a bit more of a wild card, but the fact that NVIDIA has been using the GT72 as their demo notebook for BatteryBoost suggests it will make a better showing than the GT70 with 880M. Or perhaps not….

One interesting tidbit is that the GT72 doesn't actually implement NVIDIA's Optimus Technology. This will cause some controversy I'm sure, as a reboot cycle is now required to switch between the Intel HD 4600 and the GTX 980M, and many users will likely just leave the GTX 980M enabled and forget about the Intel Processor Graphics. (There's a button to the left of the keyboard that switches between GPUs.) I don't know (yet) what the end result will be in terms of battery life, but there are a few users out there that really dislike Optimus for a variety of reasons (e.g. it doesn't play well at times with things like the Oculus Rift, apparently). If NVIDIA can get power use of the GTX 980M low enough at idle that it doesn't impact battery life too much, though, this could be the best solution for gaming notebooks.

Right now, I have to say that I'm really impressed with the MSI GT72 Dominator Pro. I'd still love to see a slightly higher resolution display, and anything other than a TN panel would be preferable. 2560x1440 would be ideal in my opinion – 3K and 4K are too much right now, but 2560x1440 should be just about right for the 980M. Outside of that complaint and some concerns over the lack of Optimus support, there are really no other flaws with the GT72. It looks so much better than the previous generation GT70 that I suspect it may become difficult for retailers to move any unsold inventory. I've liked the changes that MSI made to the GE and GS lines, and it's great to see the GT series finally get a much needed overhaul. All we need now is a GT62, which could very well be in the works. I'll be back next week with the complete review, but if you can't wait that long this is looking like the gaming notebook to beat.

MSI GT72: High Quality Gaming Performance
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  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Technically the top spec version of the GT72 is the Dominator Pro-243. It has an i7-4980HQ instead of the 4710HQ, and it has 4x256GB SSDs (1TB) instead of 4x128GB. It's "only" $900 more. Hahaha... There's a Dominator Pro-098 that has the same 4x128GB as the 208 we received, but it uses the i7-4980HQ as well; it costs $400 more just for the CPU upgrade. Ouch.
  • Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    The 243 and 098 are cancelled for the 444 and 445 which are being updated to IPS displays but otherwise at the same price and load out.
  • Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Another note, MSI have an upgrade program going into effect on the GT72 series.
  • Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    They will be selling 970M/980M upgrade kits to owners of 8xx series systems.
  • mischlep - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Typo: Unboxing And Initial Impresisons page ends with: "It's also large enough and has sufficient cooling that it won't get uncomfortably hot in your lap, which is a problem with "
  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Fixed... was busy all day writing this up, so my brain left off a few closing thoughts. Hahaha.
  • wetwareinterface - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    as to the omission (or in this case rejection) of optimus. it was done because it had to be done. a lot of people buy these laptops for cad or to run multiple screens for financial tracking and the like. optimus doesn't engage in those situations and you're left at that point with intel onboard graphics not supporting your app or only 2 displays available.

    optimus is only for gamers who want improved battery life when not gaming. this isn't really the target market for something like this laptop
  • huaxshin - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Dang. I just knew 4710HQ would be too weak and would bottleneck the GTX 980M in some games. Since Alienware and MSI seems to use HQ chips this year, I sincerely hope they will use their common sense and add better HQ chips (4980HQ and such).

    GTX 980M should probably be around 50%+ faster than GTX 880M if the CPU wasnt bottlenecking it. Bad decision about CPU, MSI.

    Good Preview Jarred
  • Hrel - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Mobile performance is still a trade-off. You have to accept lower, but still not noticeably so, frame rates. You also have to turn some things down that don't really matter, like AA and shadows and lighting effects and such. But basically all the GTX class GPU's will give you performance that's much better than what you'll get on a console, so it looks plenty good and plays smoothly.

    Hopefully the next GPU process node drop will provide mobile parts where these trade offs go away, or at least heavily reduced. Which makes me feel good about keeping my GTX765M for at least a few years, just got it this year, so I'll probably keep it until 2018. At which point, hopefully, mobile GPU's that I can afford and don't DESTROY battery life will be available. Because that certainly doesn't exist today :)
  • Mikemk - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    "cranking every dial up to 11" XKCD reference?

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