Initial Thoughts

NVIDIA made some big promises with the GTX 980M, and in general they delivered. While the gap between the desktop GTX 980 and mobile the GTX 980M may end up being more than 25% in many cases, that's probably going to be more a case of CPU performance helping desktops than it is a lack of GPU performance. Overall, the GTX 980M bests the previous generation GTX 880M by over 30%, and in some cases it's as much as 45-50% faster, e.g. in Metro: Last Light Redux. Considering that's one of the most demanding games around, when the GPU is really pushed to its limits we'll likely see an even bigger margin of victory over previous generations of GPUs. And that's without even testing new features like DX12 support, VXGI, etc.

Of course, by the time we see games implement VXGI NVIDIA will likely have the next generation of mobile and desktop GPUs available. If you're already running a high-end gaming notebook, this is also a tough sell as 30-50% is certainly an improvement, but most gamers would be willing to drop a few settings in order to achieve high frame rates on anything from GTX 680M to GTX 880M. It's really a question of what you currently have and what level of performance you're willing to pay for. Gamers with GTX 680M and earlier will certainly be tempted, and the 980M should offer basically twice the performance of a GTX 680M. Notebooks also tend to wear out faster than desktops, so a three year old notebook is getting close to being due for an upgrade regardless.

Obviously we're still missing information on other elements like battery life, how well BatteryBoost works, and general application performance. I don't think that last one is really a concern, though – with three SSDs in RAID 0 and a quad-core Haswell CPU, the MSI GT72 is more than fast enough for mundane office tasks. Considering battery life has been rather hit and miss with MSI over the past couple of years, that's a bit more of a wild card, but the fact that NVIDIA has been using the GT72 as their demo notebook for BatteryBoost suggests it will make a better showing than the GT70 with 880M. Or perhaps not….

One interesting tidbit is that the GT72 doesn't actually implement NVIDIA's Optimus Technology. This will cause some controversy I'm sure, as a reboot cycle is now required to switch between the Intel HD 4600 and the GTX 980M, and many users will likely just leave the GTX 980M enabled and forget about the Intel Processor Graphics. (There's a button to the left of the keyboard that switches between GPUs.) I don't know (yet) what the end result will be in terms of battery life, but there are a few users out there that really dislike Optimus for a variety of reasons (e.g. it doesn't play well at times with things like the Oculus Rift, apparently). If NVIDIA can get power use of the GTX 980M low enough at idle that it doesn't impact battery life too much, though, this could be the best solution for gaming notebooks.

Right now, I have to say that I'm really impressed with the MSI GT72 Dominator Pro. I'd still love to see a slightly higher resolution display, and anything other than a TN panel would be preferable. 2560x1440 would be ideal in my opinion – 3K and 4K are too much right now, but 2560x1440 should be just about right for the 980M. Outside of that complaint and some concerns over the lack of Optimus support, there are really no other flaws with the GT72. It looks so much better than the previous generation GT70 that I suspect it may become difficult for retailers to move any unsold inventory. I've liked the changes that MSI made to the GE and GS lines, and it's great to see the GT series finally get a much needed overhaul. All we need now is a GT62, which could very well be in the works. I'll be back next week with the complete review, but if you can't wait that long this is looking like the gaming notebook to beat.

MSI GT72: High Quality Gaming Performance
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  • dblkk - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    there have been several reviews done on this new chassis. MSI did the GT72 refresh with the same i7 4710 and gtx 880m. Thermals were lower than Asus, and even with similar chipped Dell.
    Without 'turbo fan' on, temps were well below throttling limits. With 'turbo fan' on, temps were incredibly low, fan noise incredibly high.

    The Gt70 has higher GPU temps/throttling with their single fan, but Asus has high/throttling CPU temps with their dual fan. For gaming the GT70 was still a beast even with throttling, but it wasn't the best ill admit. But for rendering/CPU intensive activities, the GT70 is actually one of the best.
  • Aionios - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    well the thermals are incredible here's a video of full review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9-d5k-tkBA&li...
  • Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    They are getting IPS displays in a month or two, 17.3" IPS have only starting to be made.

    Current models should be upgradable since they use a 30 pin eDP connector.
  • nathanddrews - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Good to know. I recently tried to upgrade my wife's Lenovo only to discover it used a single-channel LVDS cable. No 1080p IPS for her.
  • Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Also there is a 4980HQ version to launch too for those who want more CPU power. It wont be cheap however.
  • nathanddrews - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Possible correction:

    Most of the charts are labeled "Ultra", but then underneath say "1920x1080 VeryHigh", except for the very last chart which says "1920x1080 Ultra". The same is true for the charts on "High".

    Overall, an impressive mGPU. Can it be configured with 1TB SSDs instead?
  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Thanks -- I forgot to change the subtitles on the copy/paste/edit when making the graphs. I've put in the settings used (as much as possible) now.

    As for larger SSDs, the top model comes with four 256GB SSDs in RAID 0, and the usual places that do custom MSI notebooks should allow you to swap out the 1TB HDD for a 1TB SSD.
  • Jambe - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    I don't need the throughput of RAID SSDs so I'm always left thinking these big laptops would be much more compelling with no M.2 at all and an accessible 2.5" bay. Nice high-cap SSDs are permanently around or below 40 cents per gig, so I just balk at the prices being asked.
  • Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    There are a variety of models out which can be customised to your needs.
  • bleh0 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    I can't wait for a proper roundup of the various 980m equipped models.

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