CPU Performance

The original Note I played with was based on Qualcomm’s APQ8060 platform with MDM9200 baseband (the so-called Fusion 2 platform) and was for its time a pretty awesome piece of kit, combining LTE and a dual core SoC. The Note 2 I played with next was based on Samsung’s own Exynos 4412 SoC with quad core Cortex A9 at 1.6 GHz and Mali–400MP4 GPU. For the Note 3, I’m looking at a T-Mobile variant (SM-N900T if you want to be exact about it) which means it includes a Snapdragon 800 SoC, and Samsung has gone for the 2.3 GHz bin (really 2.265 GHz rounded up). Inside are 4 Krait 400 CPUs running at up to 2.3 GHz, and Adreno 330 graphics at up to 450 MHz, all built on TSMC’s 28nm HPM HK-MG process.

I should note that this is MSM8974 and not MSM8974AB which oddly enough one of Qualcomm’s customers already announced (Xiaomi for the Mi3) which boosts GPU clocks up to 550 MHz and the LPDDR3 memory interface up to 933 MHz, among a few other changes. I’ve confirmed that GPU clocks on the Note 3 are indeed maxing out at 450 MHz, and quite honestly it’s a bit early for 8974AB in the first place, though it wouldn’t surprise me to see Samsung eventually get that faster bin at some point and put it in something.

 

I should mention that the Note 3 (like many other Android devices - SGS4, HTC One) detects certain benchmarks and ensures CPU frequencies are running at max while running them, rather than relying on the benchmark workload to organically drive DVFS to those frequencies. Max supported CPU frequency is never exceeded in this process, the platform simply primes itself for running those tests as soon as they're detected. The impact is likely small since most of these tests should drive CPU frequencies to their max state regardless (at least on the CPU side), but I'm going to make it a point to call out this behavior whenever I see it from now on. Make no mistake, this is cheating plain and simple. It's a stupid cheat that most Android OEMs seem to be ok with and honestly isn't worth the effort. Update: Of our CPU tests only AndEBench is affected exclusively by Samsung's optimizations, the performance gain appears to be around 4%. Vellamo is gamed by all of the Snapdragon 800 platforms we have here (ASUS, LG and Samsung). None of this is ok and we want it to stop, but I'm assuming it's not going to. In light of that we're working with all of the benchmark vendors we use to detect and disable any cheats as we find them. We have renamed versions of nearly all of our benchmarks and will have uniquely named versions of all future benchmarks we use. We'll be repopulating our Bench data where appropriate.

CPU performance is honestly excellent. The Galaxy Note 3 is more or less the fastest Android smartphone we've tested up to this point. In the situations where we can do cross platform (OS/browser) comparisons, it isn't quite as fast as the iPhone 5s but in some cases it comes close.

AndEBench - Java

AndEBench - Native

SunSpider Javascript Benchmark 1.0 - Stock Browser

Google Octane Benchmark v1

Mozilla Kraken Benchmark - 1.1

Browsermark 2.0

Vellamo Benchmark - 2.0

Vellamo Benchmark - 2.0

GPU Performance

Samsung definitely likes to win, and the Galaxy Note 3 walks away with the GPU performance crown in literally every single offscreen test we've got here. The onscreen tests are obviously governed by display resolution, but all things being equal the Note 3 manages to get the edge over the PowerVR G6430 in Apple's iPhone 5s. It's also interesting to note that the Galaxy Note 3 appears to outperform all other Snapdragon 800 smartphones we've tested thus far. There's a couple of potential explanations here. First, the Galaxy Note 3 is using newer drivers than any of the other S800 platforms we've tested:

Note 3: 04.03.00.125.077
Padfone: 04.02.02.050.116
G2: 4.02.02.050.141

Secondly, it's unclear how much the manual CPU DVFS setting upon benchmark launch is influencing things - although I suspect it's significant in the case of something like 3DMark. 

Finally each manufacturer has the ability to define their own thermal limits/governor behavior, it could simply be that Samsung is a bit more aggressive on this front. We honestly haven't had enough time to dig into finding out exactly what's going on here (Samsung gave us less than a week to review 3 devices), but the end result are some incredibly quick scores for the Note 3. If I had to guess I'd assume it's actually a combination of all three vectors: drivers, high CPU frequencies and being more lenient with thermals.

Update: GFXBench 2.7 isn't affected by any optimizations here, but Basemark X and 3DMark are. We expect the Note 3's performance is inflated by somewhere in the 3 - 10% range. We're working on neutralizing this optimization across our entire suite.

GLBenchmark 2.7 - T-Rex HD

GLBenchmark 2.7 - T-Rex HD (Offscreen 1080p)

GLBenchmark 2.7 - Egypt HD

GLBenchmark 2.7 - Egypt HD (Offscreen 1080p)

3DMark Unlimited - Ice Storm

Basemark X - On Screen

Basemark X - Off Screen

Epic Citadel - Ultra High Quality, 100% Resolution

NAND & USB 3.0 Performance

Our Galaxy Note 3 review sample posted some incredible storage performance results, at least compared to all other Android smartphones we've tested. Sequential read and write performance are both class leading - the latter is nearly 2x better than the next fastest phone we've tested. Random read performance is decent, but it's random write performance that's surprising. Unlike the Moto X, the Galaxy Note 3 doesn't rely on a flash-friendly file system to get great random write performance - this is raw eMMC horsepower (if you can call ~600 IOPS that). The result isn't quite as good as what you get out of the Moto X, but it comes very close. Android 4.3 should bring FSTRIM support to the Galaxy Note 3, so as long as you remember to leave around 20% of your storage as free space you should enjoy relatively speedy IO regardless of what you do to the phone.

Sequential Read (256KB) Performance

Sequential Write (256KB) Performance

 

Random Read (4KB) Performance

Random Write (4KB) Performance

The Galaxy Note 3 ships with USB 3.0, unfortunately at least in its current state it doesn't seem to get any benefit from the interface. Although the internal eMMC is capable of being read from at ~100MB/s, sustained transfers from the device over adb averaged around 30MB/s regardless of whether or not I connected the Note 3 to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 host.

Update: USB 3.0 does work on the Note 3, but only when connected to a Windows PC with USB 3.0. Doing so brings up a new option in the "USB Computer Connection" picker with USB 3.0 as an option. Ticking this alerts you that using USB 3.0 might interfere with calls and data, but then switches over. Connection transfer speed is indeed faster in this mode as well, like you'd expect.

 

It only appears on Windows as well, my earlier attempts were on OS X where this popup option never appears. 

Battery Life & Charge Time Display
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  • smartthanyou - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Struggling? I don't understand. They are cheating, it seems simply enough of a concept to me. The fact that others are doing seem irrelevant.

    If you a review a product that is doing this shine a big bright light on it. You might also consider calling out other reviews of the same product that ignore the problem.
  • vFunct - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    A simple repackaging of benchmark tests so that they can't be detected by Samsung would do. At this point just assume that all vendors cheat, and set up your benchmark suites so they aren't detected.

    We want to know how these products act in the real world, and benchmarks are supposed to represent that.

    We don't want fake results.
  • itpromike - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Anand, what Ars did to circumvent the benchmark fluffing was recompile the application with different package names... could you do something similar, then re-run your benchmarks and update this article? Or are your benchmarks already circumventing the fluff?
  • DERSS - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Do not struggle over this. Put an asterisk at SGN3 results with note that in reality (versus overdrive mode for test) this device is not any faster than LG G2. It would be fair; problem solved.
  • dugbug - Wednesday, October 2, 2013 - link

    Yeah I've wondered if geekbench will respond similar to the juicing debate among baseball statistics nerds. Do they purge the benchmarks... or placing an asterisk.... or just nothing. Let specs chasers live in a weird little unaware lie.
  • Voldenuit - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    "We've been struggling with how to deal with this one for a little while now."

    Easy. Rename article headline to:
    "Shamesung Galaxy Note 3. Cheaters Never Prosper".

    Also, put a strikethrough on all the Samsung benchmarks.
  • bji - Wednesday, October 2, 2013 - link

    You should ask that the benchmark authors make their tools harder to cheat on. The should randomize the name of the benchmark program at installation time or something, similarly with whatever values are necessary to be randomized to prevent the benchmark from being detected as a benchmark by the cheaters.
  • Obsoleet - Tuesday, October 8, 2013 - link

    I've seen a lot of unprofessional stuff going on at AT, regarding Nvidia and Intel for years. I have no skin in the game regarding Samsung, the Note3 or anything else but I really find this to be the last straw. I actually use a GS3.
    I'm done reading your site, Anand.

    Call it cheating. That's what it is, you know it. What is your problem? How can we trust you or your staff??? Wake up and stop taking bribes, or whatever is causing you to do this kind of crap.
  • Chillin1248 - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    I agree.

    As an extremely long time Anandtech reader, I am very disappointed that they decided to run the benchmarks with the "boost" in place instead of trying to figure out how to disable them (like ARSTech) or waiting for a workaround.

    These benchmark results should be re-run with ARSTechnica's method in place of the artificially inflated scores we have now here.
  • Squuiid - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    +1. You are essentially offering a more favorable review with inflated benchmarks and actively encouraging this deception. It's no wonder Samsung continue to cheat.

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